If everyone did switch over to HF digital equipment and abandoned their 
analog mode equipment, it is very likely that this would drastically 
reduce our overall ability to communicate.

This is particularly true of voice communications. I don't think the 
science supports the ability to have digital weak signals working as 
well, much less better than, analog weak signals, when you need the high 
throughput rate of voice. That is why we can do slow digital modes, 
e.g., text, at relatively weak signals (< -17 db S/N with PSK10) but 
voice modes require tremendously better signals (~ + 10 db S/N). The 
difference is the need for the drastically higher rates of data 
throughput for voice.

We only have to look at D-Star and APCO25 equipment. These modes can not 
compete with analog signals under difficult conditions. Not to mention 
the difficulty in finding the "sweet spot" in real time when you are 
operating portable.
 
Some have suggested that the digital technology can only get better. 
Perhaps it can. We will have to see if there are some breakthroughs in 
the future.

Otherwise, my understanding is that you generally either have to 
increase power or increase bandwidth in order to make digital modes more 
robust and/or have higher throughput. Since we will likely be limited to 
3.5 KHz bandwidth on most HF frequencies in the near future here in the 
U.S., this will restrict further experimentation on HF.

A few are claiming wonderful possibilities for high baud rates on HF if 
only we could run those high baud rates. The truth is that we can do 
this right now on VHF and up albeit under much easier (but shorter 
distance) propagation conditions. But we typically need much wider 
bandwidths than with SSB, which still seems to be the best overall voice 
mode for a wide variety of signal conditions in terms of weak signal 
capabilities, ionospheric conditions e.g., selective fading, etc.

My point being that higher HF baud rates may be of limited value 
compared to giving up the ability to use wider bandwidths.

Much of the "new" technologies are beginning to sound a lot like when we 
went through the promotion of ACSB (Amplitude Compandered Side Band) 
several decades back. For those who were around then, remember how this 
highly touted technology was going to revolutionize voice 
communications. But it proved to be marginally effective considering all 
the added complexity. The main advantage was for non technical operators 
operating on a "channel," and even then it never was all that successful 
for commercial use either.

Another example is when we pushed for the ability to transmit 110 baud 
ASCII on HF. This was to be a really big paradigm shift and 
revolutionize HF digital. Yet it proved to be far less effective than 
RTTY and after a short time of experimentation, was abandoned. How many 
of us use the ASCII mode that many of the multi-mode digital interface 
boxes had as a selection?

73,

Rick, KV9U


>Think about what your saying here.  Amateur radio is going to become a
>step-child of BPL, looking for notches in the BPL signal to operate
>in.  In addtion, what was recommended was trashing all current radios
>and moving to wide band capable ones.  Are you ready to put all your
>analog radios in storage, and tell every other ham in the US that they
>will have to do the same, and fork over multi-thousands of dollars for
>new, more capable radios all because we are going total digital?  
>
>  
>



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