LAWS OF RADIO ROBOTICS
A robot operator may not QRM a human operator or, through inaction, allow a human operator to be QRMed. A robot operator must obey orders given it by human operators especially orders to stop transmitting until the frequency is clear. A robot operator must handle its own messages as long as such operation does not conflict with the First or Second Law. 73, Howard K5HB ----- Original Message ---- From: Jaak Hohensee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 1, 2008 1:44:44 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots! Dave! You wrote, that there is nothing wrong with transmitting robots in ham-bands - only verification of frequency. IMO there are minimum 2 more general questions. 1. Ethics. Robot ethics. So the primary question is not verificational. Does the transmitting robot must respect/tolerate operators or vice versa? Isaac Asimov formulated some basic principles years ago. Now South-Korea want to release The Robot Ethics Charter. http://news. bbc.co.uk/ 2/hi/technology/ 6425927.stm 2. If the ham community accept robots in ham bands, then in nearest future we see programs with artificial intelligence, that make 24h QSOs from starting to QSLing. What you expect from QSO? Robot or operator? Better to discuss this topic before. HNY 2008, Jaak ES1HJ/QRP Dave AA6YQ wrote: The flaw in your rhetoric, Jaak, is that Winlink PMBOs are QRMing existing QSOs whether or not an emergency is in progress. No one has a problem with this during an emergency -- but most of the time (thank goodness!) there is no emergency, and we're being QRM'd for no rational reason. There is nothing wrong with unattended stations, message passing, or using Pactor III -- but there is a plenty wrong with failing to verify that the frequency is locally clear before transmitting during non-emergency conditions. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -----Original Message----- From: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:digitalradi [EMAIL PROTECTED] com]On Behalf Of Jaak Hohensee Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:40 AM To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Humans tolerate robots! Dear Rodney You are wrong. You know laws/regulations, but ham-robots dont. Ham-robots have strong mantra - emergency. And strong mission - helping people. What you and other ham-humans have against this rhetoric? Ham-humans need better rhetoric against ham-robots. Like this: Mantra for ham-humans: Ham bands robotfree! Robots act in ham-bands like communication terrorists. Ham-humans mission: To developing human communication skills for any case, not only for emergency. For emergency better widely used QRP-readiness. 73, Jaak ES1HJ/QRP Rodney wrote: Tolerant of what? Intentional interference? Don't think so! Tolerant of blatant breaking of laws and regulations? NOT! Jaak Hohensee <[EMAIL PROTECTED] net> wrote: Demetre SV1UY wrote: ...This is supposed to be a free world but in a free world we should always be a bit more tolerant, don't you think? 73 de Demetre SV1UY New era beginning... 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