Thanks for the tests, Tony. The numbers confirm what NC5O and I found 
yesterday with our on-the-air comparisons between MFTTY, PSK31, PSK63, 
PSK125, and MFSK16 over a period of four hours and changing band conditions. 
We could communicate on PSK31 long after MFTTY had quit decoding, and solid 
copy using MFSK16 (but with a wider bandwidth, of course) when PSK31 started 
producing errors.

73, Skip KH6TY



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony" <d...@optonline.net>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:59 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] MFTTY - HF Path Simulations


> All,
>
> I was able to take some time to test MFTTY with the HF path simulator this 
> evening. I added a few commonly use modes for comparison. As expected, the 
> slower / narrow MFTTY modes seemed to have a definite weak signal 
> advantage over the faster ones.
>
> The minimum SNR test showed a wide 12db gap in sensitivity between 1/8 
> speed and double speed modes. This should show when testing the different 
> MFTTY modes on the air.
>
> In the HF simulator tests, each mode was subjected to same HF path 
> distortion. The less tolerable a mode is to this distortion, the greater 
> the throughput errors.
>
> It would seem that MFTTY would compare well with other more robust modes 
> if the character speed is kept down using the half and quarter speed 
> modes. At least that's what the HF simulator seemed to indicate.
>
> I'd appreciate hearing about on-air tests from you all so I can compare 
> some real data to the simulators.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tony -K2MO
>
>
> Minimum SNR
>
> MFTTY
> Double Speed     -5db
> Normal Speed     -7db
> 1/2 Speed            -9db
> 1/4 Speed          -13db
> 1/8 Speed          -17db
>
>
> MFSK16             -14db
> Olivia 500/16      -13db
> PSK31                -10db
> RTTY                     -dab
>
>
>
> Path Simulations
>
> Path Simulation:
> Mid Latitude Disturbed
> SNR -8db
>
> Mode              Throughput
>
> Double Speed     <10%
> Normal Speed        10%
> 1/2 Speed                25%
> 1/4 Speed                50%
> 1/8 Speed                85%
>
> MFSK16                 100%
> Olivia 500/16          100%
> PSK31                      70%
> RTTY 45                    20%
>
> ___________________
>
> Selective Fading
> SNR -8db
>
> Double Speed      10%
> Normal Speed      30%
> Half Speed            45%
> Quarter Speed      60%
> Eighth Speed        70%
>
> MFSK16                90%
> Olivia 500/15       100%
> PSK31                   65%
> RTTY 45                 25%
>
>
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