Hello Andy,

>Is calibration really an issue of concern IF an application can enable a 
>re-calibration process ?  If an application enables re->calibration, does 
>that only "hold" for that application or can it correct the soundcard for 
>other applications.
Yes that holds the application. The process is just to measure the "real" 
sound card sampling speed (the "standard" being the PC clock which has a 
precision better than 0.02%) and to consider this measured speed in your 
application. There is no way to calibrate the sound card itself . You simply 
take it as it is...

For standard narrow digital modes (as PSK31), if your AF level is good 
(let's say around 50 %, but not critical), there is no important need to 
have a very good sound card. For wide digital  mode (Packet, ALE, MT63-2000 
Hz, 110A), it would be a problem if the amplitude vs AF frequency would be 
not flat at all (the sound card is not supposed to be a filter inside the 
telephone bandwith (300-3000 Hz)).

For SdR the problem is completly different because you need a real good 
dynamic. With a basic sound card, having the 10th  bit noisy is not 
important for digimodes, but it would be very bad for a SdR if the input 
signal is very low (your real dynamic being bad, even if it is supposed to 
sample on 16 bits).

73
Patrick




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "obrienaj" <andrewob...@gmail.com>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 1:01 AM
Subject: [digitalradio] Understanding soundcard basics ?


> From what I have read in the past, there is a difference between 
> inexpensive sound cards and the high quality ones.  I recall past articles 
> that suggest the high quality ones can result in some very weak signals 
> being detectable in a waterfall,  whereas cheap cards may not reproduce 
> the signal.  However, as most of us know, even the cheap sound cards 
> effectively render the average ham signals, even quite weak ones.
>
> So, aside from the higher end ones rendering weak signals on a waterfall 
> better, what are measurable difference between a poor cheap one and a 
> really good top-of-the-line one ?  Can someone explain this is plain 
> English?
>
> I am aware of the "calibration/timing" issue.  Although that too does not 
> seem to make a huge difference with many digital modes.  Of the numerous 
> digital modes I have tried over the years, PC-ALE and JT65A in WSJT have 
> been the most impacted by calibration issues.  I have seen WSJT not decode 
> at all when timing of the soundcard is not correct.  Do higher end sound 
> card have less problems with timing/calibration than cheap ones?
>
> Is calibration really an issue of concern IF an application can enable a 
> re-calibration process ?  If an application enables re-calibration, does 
> that only "hold" for that application or can it correct the soundcard for 
> other applications.
>
> I raise these questions out of general interest,  but also because of 
> recent WINMOR test where the poor performance has been blamed , in part, 
> on cheap sound cards or sound cards not dedicated to the application.  I 
> don't know enough to argue the point, but my suspicion is that it is 
> really not that sound card related.
>
> Andy K3UK
>
>
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