Well for a week I sat on 145.000 Mhz 2M FM and call CQ and what I did was use my scaner to listen to my self and try to see if I was not over driving the FM, and if it sounded clean I was happy, I had no takers for the hold week and the rig was a Icom 706mk2g. GL Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson
" IN GOD WE TRUST " Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 ________________________________ From: Warren Moxley <k5...@yahoo.com> To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 16, 2009 9:37:23 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Digital on 2M FM: Audio settings ? "That can be tricky without a deviation monitor but it can be done by comparing your own digital modulation to other known good signals." Comparing your own digital modulation.. . How do you do that? Please explain. K5WGM --- On Mon, 11/16/09, Gary <grwes...@yahoo. com> wrote: >From: Gary <grwes...@yahoo. com> >Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Digital on 2M FM: Audio settings ? >To: digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com >Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 8:51 AM > > > >Hi Andy, > >I suppose this would be confusing to someone not used to FM operation on a >multi-mode rig. In all modes, ALC is a function of transmitter output power. >In SSB modes we keep our transmitted digital signals clean by running our >transceivers below the power level that causes ALC to be generated. In FM, >however, the transmitted signal is a constant level carrier. The audio >modulation from the sound card causes the frequency of that carrier to >'deviate' above and below its unmodulated frequency. What we care about on >digital FM is how clean the audio at the receive end is. The ALC reading >reflects only how much RF we are putting out, not what the modulation looks >like at the receiving end. Remember that essentially all voice FM transmitters >use some sort of peak audio clipping to limit how wide our modulation >'deviates' to keep it inside the pass band of the receive IF filters. When we >run digital FM, we need to keep the audio drive low enough that we are not driving the transmitter audio section into clipping. > >Setting the audio drive level for digital operation with an FM transmitter is >not quite as simple as for SSB. We really must monitor the actual transmitted >signal while we make that adjustment. That can be tricky without a deviation >monitor but it can be done by comparing your own digital modulation to other >known good signals. > >That said, though, a little extra distortion is not quite the problem on FM it >is on SSB. On FM, audio distortion will generally not interfere with other >stations. It may look bad on the water fall and may not decode quite as easily >as if the level was correct but it will likely still work OK. That is why we >can get away with just holding a handy talkie up to the computer speaker to >operate digital modes on VHF FM. > >That make sense? > >Gary - N0GW > >--- In digitalradio@ yahoogroups. com, Andy obrien <k3uka...@.. .> wrote: >> >> Hmmm. Well I thought it would be simple enough to transmit digital >> modes on 2M FM but one issue I just ran in to is the ALC is very high >> and my usual method of lowering it has no effect. I also lowered the >> mic gain but that had no impact. Something simple I am not taking in >> to account when using FM ? >> >> Andy K3UK >> > >