But if the path S/N is so poor that you cannot get the message across at all, isn't the spectrum efficiency zero? ;-)

73 - Skip KH6TY




Rein Couperus wrote:
Spectrum efficiency must be measured in time necessary to get the info across,
length of info transferred, and bandwidth.
((characters/second)/ bandwidth) or characters/(seconds * bandwidth).
The bandwidth includes a certain guard band(minimum distance between 2 different signals), which for JT65 is quite small ... but the time is a large factor...

To give a small example:

Pskmail using PSK500 ARQ has a spectrum efficiency of 23/500 = 0.046 CPS/Hz ... measured on 14094.0 kHz running 100 mW connected to SM0RWO (>1000Miles) ...

The longest message in JT65 is 13 characters... and a message takes 48 seconds..
the bandwidth (according to the mode description) is 65 * 2.7 = 175 Hz
...which calculates to (13/48) / 175 = 0.001547619 CPS/Hz

I would say this is a pretty bad value... :)

Rein PA0R

>Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
>that for spectrum efficiency? I was transmitting 5 watts,
>

>I know many are already aware of this, but take a look
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>N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard N6TE(DM12) on 3576.23 KHz -8dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A >N9DSJ-1 (EN52ti) Heard K3UK(FN02) on 3575.99 KHz -5dB at 03:32:00Z using JT65A
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>Bill N9DSJ decoded two stations within 24 Hz of each other, how is
>that for spectrum efficiency? I was transmitting 5 watts,
>
>Andy K3UK
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