Sometimes not. If the data stored in mail accounts is more valuable than
the server and control over it.
So this means passwords cannot be masked/hidden in the logs? You realize
that it actually defeats the whole idea of encrypted storage? It's
useless. I can think of lots of scenarios: malicious system
administrator reading users mails and blackmailing them or selling their
business secrets to competitors, corrupt law enforcement in some
countries getting rid of political or business opponents by disclosing
the contents of their mails and I can go on and on and on... There is no
such thing as semi-privacy. Privacy is either there or it's not.
What exactly Dovecot does to hide passwords in logs?
I've studied mail-crypt plugin's docs and it's written there:
Also, it might be visible in debug logging. Suggested approaches are
base64 encoding, hex encoding or hashing the password. With hashing, you
get the extra benefit that password won’t be directly visible in logs.
So how can I make passwords to be not directly visible in logs?
On 2022-10-09 11:39, Aki Tuomi wrote:
If you have intruder that is able to enable logs for your server, then
you have bigger issues than someone enabling logs to see passwords.
Dovecot does it's best to hide passwords in logs, but unfortuntely
this isn't perfect.
Aki
On 08/10/2022 23:49 EEST Serveria Support <supp...@serveria.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I'm here with a follow-up. I have managed to fix this issue!
I have rebuilt the entire project from scratch, using vanilla versions
of Dovecot, Postfix, SOGO webmail etc and everything works as
expected:
emails are getting encrypted, I'm able to send, receive and read
emails
in webmail. I suspect the root of the issue was that I was using
software package called iredmail. My guess is that all the master
admin
drama was caused by iredmail. Big thanks to you guys for the hints and
ideas which eventually helped me troubleshoot this issue! I appreciate
your assistance.
P.S. Btw, is there any way to hide plain text passwords from Dovecot
log
files? Disabling auth debugging won't help as the system may get
compromised and the intruder can re-enable logs and grab the passwords
from the logs. The only person who should know/see the password in
clear
text should be the respective mail user. Is there any way to achieve
this?
On 2022-09-15 08:16, Aki Tuomi wrote:
>> On 14/09/2022 19:34 EEST Serveria Support <supp...@serveria.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help. Do you know in which folder the keys are stored?
>> I'd like to check the permissions...
>>
>
>
> Some notes here, after reading this thread again:
>
> - Keys are stored in mail_attributes file, which depends on your
> config, but usually is %h/dovecot-attributes, which means it'll be in
> user's home directory.
>
> - The key format is Dovecot Dcrypt Key, you can use `doveadm mailbox
> cryptokey export` to export them in PEM format. Only **global keys**
> expect PEM formatted keys, which you are not using.
>
> - If you are using mail_crypt_private_password to encrypt the user
> key, you will need to provide this every time you want to access the
> user's emails, including using doveadm. Dovecot does not know what
> password you are using.
>
> - Your logs indicate that you are, still, using master userdb. This
> will not work. You cannot use master users with per-user encryption
> passwords in the way you do. If you want to use master users / master
> password, you must not encrypt the user key.
>
> - You should really focus on reading your logs, because they really do
> indicate that the userdb_mail_crypt_private_password is not exprted in
> anywhere, so clearly and obviously you are not able to access the
> mails.
>
> Maybe consider removing the master user authentication completely?
>
> Aki
