https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/16513/attachments/1/translations/en/renditions/native

Category C in the table is if you have determined that the ESA is involved, as 
per UNECE Regulation 10.5 Section 2.12, with immunity related functions, i.e. 
one of
affecting the direct control of the vehicle,
relating to driver, passenger, or other road users' protections,
liable to cause confusion to the driver or other road users if disturbed,
for vehicle data bus functionality
affecting vehicle statutory data,
or for vehicle RESS charging  (Rechargeable Energy Storage Systems)

That needs type approval.

If not then it's category D and that lists, "Devices connecting to the 
cigarette lighter interface inside a car" as not requiring type approval, but 
the application of the EMC directive instead - probably with EN 50498:2010 
Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) -
Product family standard for aftermarket electronic equipment in vehicles.  
(Which I think that standard pretty much has similar requirements to that of 
the type approval, just you don't need the e-mark bureaucracy).

I think I would also argue that the previous box in the flow chart 'connected 
permanently or temporarily to the vehicle wiring harness' is no for a 
cigarette/cigar lighter socket - that's an interface not the harness, it's part 
of the car and so would already be covered. And that leads also to, "No 
application of regulation no. 10" just the EMC directive as per my paragraph 
above.

All this just my opinion but HTH.

Matthew Wilson,
GB Electronics (UK) Ltd.


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From: bart.de.gee...@telenet.be <bart.de.gee...@telenet.be>
Sent: 16 February 2021 08:27
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: [PSES] ECE R10 - Addendum 9 - rev. 6 / Applicability of this 
regulation for ESA type of equipment with a particular 'interface type"

Dear All,

In this regulation there is a flowchart under section 3.2.1 which helps you to 
determine whether this regulation is applicable for testing for 
Electrical/electronic sub assembly products (ESAs)

At a certain moment the following question appears in this flowchart:  
"Connected via an interface type approved to this regulation as amended?".  Is 
there somebody that knows how I should interpret this question?   Where can I 
find the 'approved interface types as amended?"

If the product to be tested is connected only to the standard cigar lighter 
(for 12V supply).  Is this interface an interface which is approved as amended??

Thanks in advance for any advice related to this topic.

Greetings,
Bart
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