t seems that since 2017, Tesla has gone into reverse on their original master plan.
So let China take the lead/heat for pushing out ICE cars. In five or ten years the ICE folks can adjust/catch up. No bailout needed. The pressure on Musk is reduced and Optimus can go to Mars and or drive Robotaxis, a win-win except for the carbon problem. Ron Solberg > On May 14, 2024, at 7:22 PM, EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > On 14 May 2024 at 10:35, Rush via EV wrote: > >> I think that anybody having any knowledge of how a business is conducted >> would say that 'yes, profit is a good thing'. > > Let's restore the context: > >> AND still make a hefty profit on each car > > As I understood it, and someone correct me if this is wrong, the original > Tesla "master plan" was to get to mass market EVs. They'd start with > building luxury EVs for rich people, and use the presumably *hefty* profits > from that venture to design and build EVs for the rest of us. > > That plan was written a long time ago - maybe 2008? Again, someone please > help me out here. > > The Model 3 was introduced 7 years ago, in 2017. That was real progress > toward affordable EVs, 9 years on from the master plan's inception. Not > bad. > > Is that master plan still their guide? If so, what progress have they made > on it since? > > Not the Model Y (2020). It's more expensive. > > I'm pretty sure it's not the Cybertruck (2023), either. > > It seems that since 2017, Tesla has gone into reverse on their original > master plan. > > Their recent investor call suggested pretty strongly that they're going to > start using their EV profits less to develop EVs, and more to develop AI, > autonomy software, and robotaxis. > > Their recent layoffs seem to confirm that direction. > > What do you think of this? > > Is it a good thing? > > Is it likely to be permanent, or is it just another Elon Musk shot-from-the- > hip that he'll change next month or next year? > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > If economists wished to study the horse, they wouldn't go and look at > horses. They'd sit in their studies and say to themselves, "What would > I do if I were a horse?" > > -- Ely Devons > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
