can you reboot to run level 1? ie.; at lilo first prompt, type "linux 1" 
without the quotes? and try the same thing? or post the output from "ps aux | 
grep sm" or try a "kill -9 {pidofwhatevercomesup}" from theprevious command : 
"ps aux | grep sm" without the quotes and without "{ }".

On Monday 29 July 2002 05:42 pm, you wrote:
> Thanks for the advice. Unfortunately, the thing is that when I drop down
> to runlevel 1, pretty much everything is killed off except kernel-level
> processes. At that point, both Samba daemons, smbd and nmbd, are not
> running (checked using ps). If I try to do a 'ls' on the mounted
> directory, I get an "Input/output error." If I try to umount it, I get a
> (I believe) "Device busy" error, which means that I will not be able to
> unmount it. If I try to use fuser to see what is holding it up, I get
> another error. Basically, I have no way of dealing with the mount once I
> get the Input/output error. Below is the script output of a few commands
> in runlevel 1 to demonstrate what I am talking about.
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>--- bash-2.05# ps -efl
> F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI ADDR SZ WCHAN STIME TTY TIME CMD
> 100 S root 1 0 0 68 0 - 356 do_sel Jul15 ? 00:00:03 init
> 040 S root 2 1 0 69 0 - 0 contex Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [keventd]
> 040 S root 3 1 0 69 0 - 0 apm_ma Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kapmd]
> 040 S root 4 0 0 79 19 - 0 ksofti Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [ksoftirqd_CPU0]
> 040 S root 5 0 0 69 0 - 0 kswapd Jul15 ? 00:01:14 [kswapd]
> 040 S root 6 0 0 69 0 - 0 bdflus Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [bdflush]
> 040 S root 7 0 0 69 0 - 0 kupdat Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kupdated]
> 040 S root 8 1 0 59 -20 - 0 md_thr Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [mdrecoveryd]
> 040 S root 14 1 0 69 0 - 0 down_i Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [scsi_eh_0]
> 040 S root 17 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 247 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 250 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:00 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 251 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:01 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 252 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:04 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 253 1 0 69 0 - 0 end Jul15 ? 00:00:03 [kjournald]
> 040 S root 4369 1 0 69 0 - 356 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 init
> 000 S root 4370 4369 0 69 0 - 579 wait4 17:01 tty1 00:00:00 /bin/sh
> 100 S root 4389 4370 0 72 0 - 348 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f
> /pub/rlev1.txt
> 040 S root 4390 4389 0 73 0 - 350 read_c 17:05 tty1 00:00:00 script -f
> /pub/rlev1.txt
> 000 S root 4391 4390 0 75 0 - 575 wait4 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 bash -i
> 000 R root 4393 4391 0 76 0 - 770 - 17:05 pts/0 00:00:00 ps -efl
>
> bash-2.05# netstat -a
> Active Internet connections (servers and established)
> Proto Recv-Q Send-Q Local Address Foreign Address State
> Active UNIX domain sockets (servers and established)
> Proto RefCnt Flags Type State I-Node Path
>
> bash-2.05# mount
> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw)
> none on /proc type proc (rw)
> none on /dev type devfs (rw)
> none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620)
> none on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
> /dev/hda8 on /home type ext3 (rw)
> /mnt/cdrom on /mnt/cdrom type supermount
> (ro,dev=/dev/hdc,fs=iso9660,--,iocharset=iso8859-1)
> /mnt/floppy on /mnt/floppy type supermount
> (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
> /mnt/zip on /mnt/zip type supermount
> (rw,sync,dev=/dev/sdb4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850)
> /dev/sda5 on /opt type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hdb1 on /pub type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hda6 on /usr type ext3 (rw)
> /dev/hda7 on /var type ext3 (rw)
> none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw,devmode=0664,devgid=43)
> //RGILLEN/shared on /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared type smbfs (0)
>
> bash-2.05# umount /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
> umount: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: device is busy
>
> bash-2.05# ls /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
> ls: /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared: Input/output error
>
> bash-2.05# touch /home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared
> touch: setting times of `/home/borgille/mnt/RGILLEN/shared':
> Input/output error
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>----
>
> Note that I did this on my Mandrake box at work (I was experiencing the
> problem at home). To reproduce the problem, I first used smbmount to
> mount a share on a Win2K box. Then, I disabled the network connection in
> the Windows control panel on the machine that had the share. At this
> point, any shells on the Mandrake box that try to do anything
> interactive with the mounts lock up. After closing what I can, I
> telinit'd down to runlevel 1 (from 5), which is where I ran the commands
> that you see above. You'll notice that none of the Samba daemons are
> running (nor could they without the network running). Even after I
> return to runlevel 5 and restart the networking on the Win2K box, I
> cannot umount the share. I can do nothing with it. At this point, the
> only way to remove the mount (that I know of) is to reboot the machine.
> This is the main reason that I suggested that it might be a kernel-level
> problem -- the kernel, which controls filesystem mounts, will not
> release the mount point under any circumstances. So, if I am correct
> about it being a kernel problem, I am wondering if it happens only with
> Mandrake kernels.
>
> Unfortunately, since I am at work, I couldn't reproduce the dhcpd
> problem that I think might be related. I thought that the problem might
> be affecting networking on the Mandrake box, but in my scenario here at
> the office, I can connect to a smb share on the Mandrake box from the
> Win2K one.
>
> ROB
>
> J. Craig Woods wrote:
> >Rob Gillen wrote:
> >
> >I do not believe this is a samba "bug" per se. It does, however, point
> >out some things you should be aware of in regards to any *nix type
> >system. When you mount a remote directory, using ether the "smbmount" or
> >"mount -t smbfs" commands, you have called a daemon to run on your linux
> >machine. This daemon is spawned by the command "/usr/bin/smbmount", and
> >it will run until you umount your remote directory. Now you are saying
> >that someone comes along, and kills the machine you have mounted the
> >remote directory from. The problem now is not samba: it is that you have
> >a daemon running that can no longer make a connection to the "dead"
> >machine. You can restart the samba services until hell freezes over but
> >it will not help you. You must stop the samba mount daemon that is
> >running. If I have a remote directory mounted via smbmount on my linux
> >machine, and I do a "ps -aux | grep mount", I will see the daemon. In my
> >case it looks
> >like this:
> >
> ><snip>

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