Hi, Alison! One argument that might work with the PTB to incentivize the IT approval is to compare the cost of your manual find/replace operation (your time, the delay in the whole operation it’s part of, etc,) to the few moments it would take to run the Paragraph Tools. What manager wants to be responsible for increasing cost and delay, when they could be garnering praise for improving ROI? :)
When I first started working at a large company that wrote its docs in unix text editors like vi, and published in customized xroff, one of the core tech pubs teammates wrote unix scripts that massaged the files. They used a variety of native unix utilities and pipelined their outputs to bash the content into shape. Yes, there was development time, but the rest of the team only needed to type the command, and that effort paid back by doing the work almost instantly. If there’s no other way to get some processing without a tool you now have and can’t install, perhaps you can interest a colleague who loves coding challenges to use Windows batch file (or Mac Terminal) command line tools to perform operations on MIF files. Technically, creating a script this way isn’t adding anything to the system. After testing, it's just automating manual stuff that humans might make mistakes when repeating. Corporate power has some good aspects, but stifling productivity isn’t one. Often sticking with tradition hides the fact that resisting change is costly. Cheers! On Thu, Aug 11, 2022 at 11:52 AM <acr...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Hi Peter: > > Thanks. I'm still waiting for permission from HQ IT Security to buy and > install a set of Silicon Prairie tools. They have to evaluate everything > before I can install anything. (The guy who runs SP even provided me with a > statement about how his programs work.) > > I think I've been waiting for 18 months at this point... :-((( > > But thanks for the reminder, I'll send our local IT Admin another note > asking him to follow up with HQ IT. > > Alison > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Framers <framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com> On > Behalf Of Peter Gold > Sent: August 10, 2022 5:57 PM > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > Subject: Re: [Framers] Updating Para Tag Language in a Translated FM Book > > For the future, silicon prairie software paragraph tools IIRC can do this > kind of fine-tuning. Also, creating and importing a skeleton MIF file with > only the settings you want can do it. > > OTOH, bruises earned but doing real grunt work in the trenches give one the > best confidence. :) Congrats! > > On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 6:54 PM <acr...@shaw.ca> wrote: > > > Yes it is. > > > > I just went into every MIF file and did a search and replace on the > > language > > - a real pain as there were so many files, but it's done. > > > > Alison > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Framers <framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com> On > > Behalf Of Craig Ede > > Sent: August 10, 2022 4:30 PM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Updating Para Tag Language in a Translated FM > > Book > > > > Isn't the language setting part of the paragraph tag definition? > > > > I'll go look, but that's what I recall. Where is the language setting > > you are seeing defined? > > > > Craig Ede > > ________________________________ > > From: Framers > > <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail....@lists.frameusers.com> > > on > > behalf of Craig, Alison GLI/CA <acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 4:52 PM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Updating Para Tag Language in a Translated FM > > Book > > > > Hi Craig: > > > > Importing the tags would simply import fresh para tags with the > > language still set to English. > > > > I want to change the language to German - hopefully in some kind of > > batch process. > > > > Or maybe I'm misunderstanding something in your explanation. > > > > Can I do this in this in the MIF files with Search and Replace? > > > > Alison > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Framers > > <framers-bounces+acraig=greenlightinnovation....@lists.frameusers.com> > > On Behalf Of Craig Ede > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:44 PM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Framers] Updating Para Tag Language in a > > Translated FM Book > > > > !-------------------------------------------------------------------| > > This message is from an external sender > > This email originated from outside of the organization. > > Do not click links or open attachments unless you > > recognize the sender and know the content is safe. 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If the English is part of the > > stand definition in the returned files (and not an override) that should > work. > > > > If no "clean template" for the book exists, I would create one to have > > ready for this sort of contingency. > > > > Craig Ede > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Framers > > <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail....@lists.frameusers.com> > > on > > behalf of Craig, Alison GLI/CA <acr...@greenlightinnovation.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 4:23 PM > > To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. > > <framers@lists.frameusers.com> > > Subject: [Framers] Updating Para Tag Language in a Translated FM Book > > > > Win 10 Pro, FM 2020 > > > > I've just received my MIF files back from the translators (English to > > German) and all the Para Tag formats still have English (Canada) set > > as the Language. > > > > Is there a simple way to reset them all to German - Germany (2006 > Reform)? > > > > Alison > > > > Alison Craig > > 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