Hello Simon, OK my mistake, I think I should have said "omission sign", not quotation mark. When "de" and "le/la" are before a vowel it should be l' right, and not l ' ? L'amour and not l 'amour. Je viens d'Espagne and not Je viens d 'Espagne?
(hopefully Outlook is not going to auto-correct my spaces) Best regards, Tom De Rouck Industries & Environment Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation Services Mobile: +32 (0)476 87 44 33 -----Original Message----- From: Framers <framers-bounces+tom.derouck=sgs....@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of framers-requ...@lists.frameusers.com Sent: donderdag 1 februari 2024 22:01 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [EXTERNAL] Framers Digest, Vol 214, Issue 1 *** WARNING: this message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER. 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Re: Single quotation mark in French (Simon BUCH) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 08:53:29 +0000 From: "de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate)" <tom.dero...@sgs.com> To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French Message-ID: <am9pr05mb77454385c277ba226e2ea2e4eb...@am9pr05mb7745.eurprd05.prod.outlook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone, Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022? Anyone knows how to turn this off? Merci pour l 'aide (intended) Best regards, Tom Tom De Rouck Industries & Environment Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation Services SGS Belgium NV Karnemelkstraat 3 B-9060 - Zelzate Phone: +32 (0)9 242 81 77 Mobile: +32 (0)476 87 44 33 E-mail : tom.dero...@sgs.com<mailto:tom.dero...@sgs.com> Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the Company. Finally, the recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at https://www.sgs.com/en/terms-and-conditions ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 09:50:39 -0800 From: <acr...@shaw.ca> To: "'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.'" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> Subject: Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French Message-ID: <001901da5537$2bbdc430$83394c90$@shaw.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Wow! That's a stupid idea. Hopefully, it's a bug not a feature and will soon be fixed. Alison -----Original Message----- From: Framers <framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com> On Behalf Of de Rouck, Tom (Zelzate) Sent: February 1, 2024 12:53 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French Hi everyone, Who at Adobe suddenly thought it was a good idea to automatically add a hard space before a single quotation mark in French, in Framemaker 2022? Anyone knows how to turn this off? Merci pour l 'aide (intended) Best regards, Tom Tom De Rouck Industries & Environment Technical Assessment & Advisory - Senior Project Manager - Documentation Services SGS Belgium NV Karnemelkstraat 3 B-9060 - Zelzate Phone: +32 (0)9 242 81 77 Mobile: +32 (0)476 87 44 33 E-mail : tom.dero...@sgs.com<mailto:tom.dero...@sgs.com> Information in this email and any attachments is confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual(s) to whom it is addressed or otherwise directed. 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All SGS services are rendered in accordance with the applicable SGS conditions of service available on request and accessible at https://www.sgs.com/en/terms-and-conditions _______________________________________________ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com/ Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 13:56:33 -0400 From: Simon BUCH <simon.b...@m-ais.com> To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." <framers@lists.frameusers.com>, acr...@shaw.ca Subject: Re: [Framers] Single quotation mark in French Message-ID: <2aa35407-8c55-4044-a076-8c55ca947...@m-ais.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Bonjour tout le monde It's not a stupid idea.? It's standard [traditional] French typography rules that specify that a half space is between the guillmet [simple or double] and the enclosed text.?? Qu?becois French on the other hand may not follow the same rules. ? Vivre la diff?rence! ? You might need to change character tags or paragraph tags to apply no language specification. Alternatively, there may be a text option somewhere located in the Format menu ... or wherever Adobe have moved it! Salut, /// Simon BUCH On 01/02/2024 13:50, acr...@shaw.ca wrote: > Wow! That's a stupid idea. 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