On Thu, 21 Apr 2011 07:34:32 -0400 Jerry <freebsd.u...@seibercom.net> wrote:
 > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:22:35 -0700
 > per...@pluto.rain.com <per...@pluto.rain.com> articulated:
 > 
 > > Jerry <freebsd.u...@seibercom.net> wrote:
 > > 
 > > > On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:01:28 -0500
 > > > Martin McCormick <mar...@dc.cis.okstate.edu> articulated:
 > > > > ... our entire network is on the blacklist ...
 > > >
 > > > Why are you blacklisted? It seems correcting that problem
 > > > would be my first priority.
 > > 
 > > Being a university, okstate.edu has students, most of whom are
 > > not in the CIS department or in any way under control of the CIS
 > > department's sysadmin.  Need I say more?
 > 
 > Actually yes. Ignoring for a moment the reply you sent me directly,
 > conveniently bypassing the group forum,

perry's message, like this one, was likely posted to you, cc the list. 
That's long been customary on freebsd lists, even this 'kindergarten' 
one; noone 'conveniently bypassed' anything.  If you don't like private
copies, sent as a courtesy, just delete them and move on.

The last thing we need is people here to troll on behalf of M$ stamping 
their feet, demanding we change the way we've always used these lists.

 > are you implying that these
 > students are using the University's web mail for possible illegal
 > actions and no one is policing that action?

Ah Jerry, good to see you end your admonition with a little humour!

cheers, ian

"He only does it to annoy, because he knows it teases" -- Lewis Carroll
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