On 04/02/12 17:48, Ian Smith wrote:
In freebsd-questions Digest, Vol 408, Issue 10, Message: 5
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:05:00 +0700 Erich 
Dollansky<erichfreebsdl...@ovitrap.com>  wrote:
  >  On Saturday 31 March 2012 20:26:14 Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[..]
  >  >  Da Rock wrote:
  >  >  >  On 03/31/12 17:46, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
[..]
  >  >  >  >  schu...@ime.usp.br wrote:
  >  >  >  >>  Hello,
  >  >  >  >>
  >  >  >  >>  I would like to raise a discussion about the security features
  >  >  >  >>  of FreeBSD as a whole and how they might be employed to actually
  >  >  >  >>  derive some meaningful guarantees.

  >  >  >  >  We have a list specialy for freebsd-security@. Please use it.

I thought this to be sensible advice.  Before seeing that I'd thought of
copying it to rwatson@ who I figured might take an interest due to his
involvement with Capsicum, acl(3) and such, but he certainly reads that
list anyway (and more than likely, not this one :)

  >  >  >  Hang on, hold the phone: The security list (specifically) is for
  >  >  >  security announcements. At least that what it said when I subscribed 
to
  >  >  >  it...
  >  >
  >  >  Wrong.

Correct :)

So thats turn left, right? Clear as mud now... :)

  >  >  For list of mail lists see:
  >  >    http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo
  >  >
  >  >  Specifically:
  >  >    freebsd-secur...@freebsd.org
  >  >    http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security
  >  >
  >  >    freebsd-security-notificati...@freebsd.org
  >  >    
http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-security-notifications

  >  this sounds very confusing for people who have simple question:
  >
  >  'General system administrator questions of an FAQ nature are
  >  off-topic for this list, but the creation and maintenance of a FAQ is
  >  on-topic. Thus, the submission of questions (with answers) for
  >  inclusion into the FAQ is welcome. Such question/answer sets should
  >  be clearly marked as (at least "FAQ submission") such in the subject.
  >  '

schultz' post was nothing in the way of an FAQ issue, but a request for
discussion of a wide range of system security issues, far indeed from a
'simple question'.  Had you posted the two paragraphs before the one you
quote above, this may have been a little clearer.  To wit:

"This is a technical discussion list covering FreeBSD security issues.
The intention is for the list to contain a high-signal, low-noise
discussion of issues affecting the security of FreeBSD.
I think that has clarified things sufficiently now. Looks like I should subscribe to that list too.
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