Could try to install systemv or runrc as init proesses (process 1) instead
of systemd.  Then you don't need to install Devuan, and can start file bugs
to packages that are to systemd centric for no real reason.

So with Devuan or Debian and alternative init system.   To begin with,
control sevices with Debian command system instead of systemd command
systemctl.

Then probably file a couple of bugs on packages that uses systemctl without
any chek that it is installed, instead of using system.

So as Petter wrote, a lot of time, but probably useful for compatibility of
the project.

Yes, systemd-timesyncd is ok for clients, but not that good for servers.
Not last time I checked anyways.

Technically you should be able to install another ntp-server side by side
with systemd-timesyncd.  As timesyncd can work as a ntp-client only and can
work with other ntp-servers confgured as ntp-server but not ntp-client.
But most are working as both local ntp-client and ntp-server in the default
setup.  It used to work like that earlier, if I remember right.  Now you
need to uninstall timesyncd to be able to install another ntp-server on
your local ntp-server server.

Rant start: Don't read if you have strong opinions about how great systemd
are.
It's way to much NIH attitude in systemd, and thus to much MS-like design.
I remember another Linux desktop based project that was nice, but had to
much NIH attitude and MS-like design.  They failed after a while.
Rand over:

Yours, Jackson

Den tors 2 maj 2024 kl 02:45 skrev Sandy Harris <sandyinch...@gmail.com>:

> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:34 AM Stefan Monnier via Freedombox-discuss
> <freedombox-discuss@alioth-lists.debian.net> wrote:
> >
> > FreedomBox is a great way to setup many different services, but I can't
> > seem to figure out how to make it serve the time via the NTP protocol.
> >
> > I tried to do it by hand, but I can't install `ntpsec` because it
> > conflicts with the `systemd-timesyncd` package which is required
> > by FreedomBox.
>
> What would it take to set up Freedom Box on Devuan, a Debian fork
> without systemd?
> Has anyone done this?
>
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