Without web defacing teenagers this industry wouldn't have gained the momentum it has. Yin/Yang. Without your so called cybercriminals your life would be meaningless.
/m Len rose is a muppet. Stop moderating my mail. ----- Original Message ----- From: "n3td3v" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 3:19 PM Subject: Re: FW: [Full-Disclosure] Shadowcrew Grand Jury Indictment > On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:29:19 -0700 (MST), Bruce Ediger > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Unfortunately, the US Government operates under the auspices of a small > > document called "The Constitution", and a little concept called "Common Law". > > Now, I know that you trendy kids call things like that "quaint" (I believe > > that's what our new Attorney general calls things like the Geneva Convention. > > See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/06/13/wguan13.xml& sSheet=/news/2004/06/13/ixworld.html) > > but fortunately for the rest of us, "presumption of innocence" remains > > the standard of the land. > > > > If you small-minded totalitarians don't like that sacred principle, get > > the hell out of the US. We don't need your kind. Move to some Banana > > Republic where they change the rules all the time in the face of 1000 > > years of tradition and philosophy and the Blood of Patriots who died to > > protect these rights. > > > > "Zero tollerence". What will these doofuses think of next? I bet they > > start up a cult of personality around the nation's leader, including a > > new salute borrowed from the Romans. > > I don't live in the U.S thankfully, I live in a sane country called the U.K > > Would you agree with closing down a site that was letting child > abusers to post links to illegal child porn photographs? Would the > site owner be able to say, we aren't involved with any of these links, > we just provide the site for the criminals to do it, so other child > abusers can get links easy to child porn photos. > > But no, when we move onto online malicious hacker crimes, its ok for > sites, such as zone-h, which allows malicious hackers to post links > for other hackers to get a kick over, just like a child abuser would > by visiting a child porn photo. > > Imagine a child abuse site which also kept a score board of the > biggest amount of child porn photo posters. Yet again we move onto > malicious hacker online crimes, it seems to be different for zone-h to > keep scores of the biggest malicious hacker defacement posters. > > Why one rule for one online crime promotion site and not the same rule > for another online crime promotion site? I guess you would allow a > child porn promotion site, like you think its ok for zone-h to be > online promoting online malicious hacking and not closed down. > > Thanks,n3td3v > http://www.geocities.com/n3td3v > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html