> > *I must say, you are the first person to openly complain, and if others > feel strongly about it I can cease sharing content that I think needs > urgent help or peer review. > *
Well, I second Caroline. I already said this in Foundation-l but again: I don't think that delete pictures of Wikipe-tan, remove a vagina from the article with the same name or create a article for a female pimp (only to mention a few cases I remember now) are the way we will solve gender gap. So yes, please stop post this here, or use the wikiEN-l<https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>mailing list. And Sarah, this "If you don't like you can sign the digest mode" sounds rude to me, as if you are inviting her to leave. (I'm not a english native, but that is how appears to me) _____ *Béria Lima* Wikimedia Portugal <http://wikimedia.pt> (351) 963 953 042 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. <http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 25 December 2011 17:03, Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> wrote: > Caroline, > > I apologize if my occasional posting of an "interesting" article in > English Wikipedia has been a burden, deterrent, or has went against the > "goal" of this mailing list for you. Since I have joined, it has been > something we have been doing, and the past month or so the list has been > rather quiet compared to other times in the past. In the past, when we have > shared articles of questionable matter, subject, sexism, or other issues, > we've had great success of working together or independently to improve > those articles, and often those improvements have been done by women who > are on this list, which is very cool. I of course urge folks in any > language to share content, however, with most Wikipedia mailing lists, > systematic "language" bias does exist, as many are in English, though I > know that was not the main point of your post. > > Thanks for the suggestions. I'll probably start out discussing it on the > talk page of the article and also the project page. > > Again, I apologize if my own interests in article improvement in English > Wikipedia have deterred or went against the mission of this mailing list. I > must say, you are the first person to openly complain, and if others feel > strongly about it I can cease sharing content that I think needs urgent > help or peer review. As you did state, we could be pointing out issues of > sexism all the time, however, sometimes I feel there are things of interest > to the broader community, or something that might interest someone. (And > while it has mainly been me lately, if you explore the history of the > mailing list it's usually not just me flooding up your mailbox =) ) > > I also must add, my sharing of articles of interest and concern have > wielded nothing but positive on.Wiki improvement of these subjects, which > for me, means the closing of the gender gap in a different manner - one > more subject area related to women or women's history which is covered in a > more equal and respectful manner. > > We also offer, as you probably know, a digest mode, so, if this list is > too busy for you (I think we are rather minimal these days, compared to > lists such as internal-l and foundation-l) that might be something to > consider. I'm glad you have joined and chosen to participate, and I am > really sorry if my posts have been intruding. > > Sarah > > > *Sarah Stierch* > Wikimedia Foundation Community Fellow > >>Support the sharing of free knowledge around the world: donate > >>today<http://wikimediafoundation.org/w/index.php?title=WMFJA085/en/US&utm_source=WMdonate&utm_medium=sidebar&utm_campaign=20110130SB003&language=en&uselang=en&country=US&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwikimediafoundation.org%2Fwiki%2FHome> > << > > > On 12/25/11 5:59 AM, Caroline Becker wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > I'm sorry that my first post on the gender-gap list is a little mean. > I'm a wikipedia-fr admin, active member of Wikimédia France chapter and a > member of the OTRS team. Yet, since I've joined gender-gap a week early, I > receive more mails from this list than all the other lists together. I'm > also not a native English speaker, which means every mail takes me a little > longer of my time. > > I thought the goal of this list was to discuss about women on wikimedia > projects and how to attract new ones. I don't think it is useful to point > out every single piece of sexism from en-wikipedia, in articles and > discussion pages, for that. Or start > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Gender_gap/en-wikipedia. I could point out > sexism comments from fr-wikipedia every day, but I'm really not sure it is > a constructive thing to do. > > To come back to Madam vs Pimp, I think you either should start the > discussion there : > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality, > or stop asking permission to create articles. If it bothers someone, she > will ask for a fusion. > > Caroline (User:Léna) > > > 2011/12/25 Sarah Stierch <sarah.stie...@gmail.com> > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm doing a bit of fiddling with some articles related to sexuality and >> came across an article about a madam [[Polly Adler]]. The word "madam" was >> linked to [[pimp]]. While the article opens mentioning that a woman who >> runs a brothel is called a madam, it's an extremely male dominated article >> and focuses on the violent and sordid world of "being a pimp," for lack of >> better words. >> >> I, frankly, would *love* to see madam have it's own article. Perhaps we >> should discuss it on the "pimp" page or just BE BOLD. (I don't have time to >> start a well fleshed out madam article, but, I'd be interested in perhaps >> collaborating with others to do it.) >> >> Thoughts? >> >> -Sarah >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sarah Stierch Consulting >> -- >> Historical, cultural, new media & artistic research & advising. >> http://www.sarahstierch.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gendergap mailing list >> Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing > listGendergap@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > > > > -- > Sarah Stierch Consulting > -- > Historical, cultural, new media & artistic research & advising. > http://www.sarahstierch.com > > _______________________________________________ > Gendergap mailing list > Gendergap@lists.wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/gendergap > >
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