What if...

Wikiquette assistance were resurrected as a list of volunteer admins that
you could privately email about problems rather than a public noticeboard?

Ryan Kaldari


On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 4:05 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would assume that WMF has an ombudsman who would do just that, but I see
> that there is only this:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ombudsman_commission
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Sarah <slimvir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Daniel and Elizabeth Case <
>> danc...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>   ​>A major problem with our dispute-resolution processes is that the
>>> person being harassed has >to endure more harassment to draw attention to
>>> the problem.
>>>
>>>  This is, of course, hardly unique to Wikipedia or even online
>>> communities in general, I think.
>>>
>>
>> ​Hi Daniel, the very public nature of it on Wikipedia makes it unusual
>> and very stressful.​
>>
>>
>>>  ​
>>>
>>> >I have long thought the Foundation ought to employ a team of
>>> specialists who can take up >those cases when they see them, so that the
>>> pursuit of sanctions is not laid at the victim's >door. This is perhaps
>>> similar to Sumana's suggestion that communities need dedicated >helpers who
>>> will do the emotional labour in conflict situations.
>>>
>>> Would there be a good existing example of such a program we could take a
>>> look at?
>>>
>>>  Daniel Case
>>>
>>
>> ​Sumana talked
>> <https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Hospitality,_Jerks,_and_What_I_Learned>
>> about the situation at Hacker School: "​
>> If you don’t understand why something you did broke the rules, you don't
>> ask the person who corrected you. You ask a facilitator. You ask someone
>> who’s paid to do that emotional labor, and you don't bring everyone else's
>> work to a screeching halt. This might sound a little bit foreign to some of
>> us right now. Being able to ask someone to stop doing the thing that’s
>> harming everyone else’s work and knowing that it will actually stop and
>> that there’s someone else who’s paid to do that emotional labor who will
>> take care of any conversation that needs to happen.
>> ​"
>>
>> The idea of having people paid to do this is very attractive for
>> Wikipedia. I think they would have to be professionals with appropriate
>> training, otherwise there's a big risk of making things worse. The
>> Foundation probably has enough of an income to consider this, given the
>> potential impact on the atmosphere and editor retention.
>>
>> Sarah​
>>
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