Card-carrying librarian here.  Can someone let me in on our takeover plans?
  Email me.   Thanks.

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 5:49 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:

> yes, lambs to the slaughter
> echoing andrew lih,
> i have been to a few wiki loves libraries
> and all the librarians are aware of the toxic culture
> but the militant ones are biding their time
> for the takeover.
> i was questioning DGG about some librarian ethics
> but he dismissed them.
>
> also about the "political moment" response
> we need to start recruiting candidates for arbcom now.
> i asked Rosiestep <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rosiestep> , but
> she demurred
> can't say i blame her.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "...now pitching the idea that ARL libraries take over editing chunks of
>> Wikipedia..." It does sound like a remake of Bambi Meets Godzilla.
>>
>> Wonder how that would go over in Canada--looks like they have a number of
>> ARL libraries http://www.arl.org/membership#.ViU1omtAeKI  Sounds like
>> the kind of thing LAC might regards as a “high risk” activity.
>> http://o.canada.com/news/national/federal-librarians-fear-being-muzzled-under-new-code-of-conduct
>> And there is already an old code of conduct that mentions diversity and
>> harassment.
>> http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/about-us/Pages/code-conduct-value-ethics.aspx#h
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:52 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> right,
>>>  here's the tweet from an audience member at a ARL conference
>>> https://twitter.com/LibSkrat/status/651786423138430976
>>>
>>> it is quoted on one of fuzheado's slides.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Neotarf <neot...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have posted a transcript of the Q&A portion:
>>>> https://neotarf.wordpress.com/2015/10/19/danielle-citrons-wikicon-online-harassment-speech-qa/
>>>> and added links to the documents referenced.
>>>>
>>>> @Fae thanks for the link, I didn't know you could link to a specific
>>>> point in a video
>>>> @J Hayes "cultural buzzsaw" tweet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:08 PM, J Hayes <slowki...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> nice for arbcom to see how they are perceived
>>>>>
>>>>> and Andrew Lih mentioned the "cultural buzzsaw" tweet for importance
>>>>> of fixing culture as one of the things wikipedia must do.
>>>>>
>>>>> this was for an audience of the US powers that be; it will be
>>>>> interesting to see the impact on future conduct.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, that was an interesting Q&A - I was familiar with most of the
>>>>>> material discussed in the talk (and a lot of it has been discussed here
>>>>>> before), but I was surprised by the emotional response afterwards and the
>>>>>> number of comments/questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 5:55 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Links:
>>>>>>> 1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-Y-FuzAH4&t=85m30s
>>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee#Comments_on_ArbCom_and_gender
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Folks may be interested in watching the Q&A session at the recent
>>>>>>> WikiConference USA where gender and harassment was discussed for
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>> 45 minutes.[1] It makes for an interesting summary of how Arbcom is
>>>>>>> perceived with regard to handling harassment cases, and the types of
>>>>>>> harassment of significant concern for our community.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This has been raised on the Arbcom noticeboard[2], it will be
>>>>>>> interesting to see how many current Arbcom members make a public
>>>>>>> comment, or indeed if they are perfectly happy with the way Arbcom
>>>>>>> currently works, or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fae
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
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