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> On 28 Apr 2018, at 14:56, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 28 April 2018 at 13:45, Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 14:28, sebb <seb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> On 28 April 2018 at 13:06, Jan Iversen <j...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 13:07, Hervé BOUTEMY <herve.bout...@free.fr> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> oh, I was just trying to document, not change anything:
>>>>> - the svnwcsub part is what works for years but was not well known outside
>>>>> infra team
>>>>> - the buildbot job *for the current build.sh* (in/repos/asf/attic/site/) 
>>>>> which
>>>>> is just a way to not require to do the build locally
>>>>> 
>>>>> this does not include anything regarding future changes that are in
>>>>> discussion/tests:
>>>>> - Git migration
>>>>> - build switch from Ant/Anakia to 3 other solutions
>>>>> 
>>>>> do you see something that is not simple documentation in my commit?
>>>>> (I don't want to add more diversity in ideas for future changes, just
>>>>> document)
>>>> will the buildbot is new, and adding it to our current process is a bit 
>>>> premature, especially since we might end up not needing it.
>>>> 
>>>> No need to reverse the commit, I simply wanted to point out facts, because 
>>>> during the last period things seem to have their own life, and are then 
>>>> seen as facts. If I were to retire a project tomorrow, I would use the old 
>>>> method, without a buildbot.
>>> 
>>> No, you cannot ignore the buildbot because it happens when you commit.
>>> 
>>> However provided that you commit all the changes at once, you should
>>> not notice a difference.
>> 
>> then let me just say, the process (online right now) says:
>> 
>> in xdocs/projects/ copy one of the files to the new project name (eg. 
>> devicemap.xml)
>> Add the new file as a link in the xdocs/stylesheets/project.xml navigation
>> Run 'ant' from the root (ie: the attic/site/ directory you checked out)
>> Review the generated files in docs/** in your browser
>> SVN commit all changes. Remember to add both the new xdocs/ project file and 
>> the new generated docs/ project file N.B. the buildbot will detect any 
>> changes to the source and build/commit the outout. So it's important to 
>> checkin all the changes at once. Or just checkin the source changes and let 
>> buildbot do the rest.
>> The new pages should go live quickly
>> so according to that I have to run ant (old process) and commit both xdocs 
>> and docs, and then buildbot will do something.....this is not really 
>> understandable as it in reality describes 2 competing procedures.
> 
> There are two alternative procedures:
> - build everything locally and check it all in in one commit
> - check in the xdocs changes and let buildbot do the work
> 
> I can disable the automatic buildbot if you insist.
> But I thought we had already agreed to use it.

I just want the procedure to be very clear. the “run ant” step is not optional 
as an example. The build job is there, so I assume it can be used.

rgds
jan i
> 
>> rgds
>> jan i
>>> 
>>>> rgds
>>>> jan i
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hervé
>>>>> 
>>>>> [1] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site/
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le samedi 28 avril 2018, 12:54:40 CEST Jan Iversen a écrit :
>>>>>> Isn’t it a bit premature to change the process ? Seen from pow we are
>>>>>> experimenting with at least 3 proposals of which 1 does not need a
>>>>>> buildbot.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is of course just my opinion.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> rgds
>>>>>> jan I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28 Apr 2018, at 12:33, hbout...@apache.org wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Author: hboutemy
>>>>>>> Date: Sat Apr 28 10:33:07 2018
>>>>>>> New Revision: 1830424
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1830424&view=rev
>>>>>>> Log:
>>>>>>> added links to Buildbot job and svnwcsub configuration
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Modified:
>>>>>>> attic/site/xdocs/process.xml
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Modified: attic/site/xdocs/process.xml
>>>>>>> URL:
>>>>>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic/site/xdocs/process.xml?rev=1830424&r1=
>>>>>>> 1830423&r2=1830424&view=diff
>>>>>>> =========================================================================
>>>>>>> ===== --- attic/site/xdocs/process.xml (original)
>>>>>>> +++ attic/site/xdocs/process.xml Sat Apr 28 10:33:07 2018
>>>>>>> @@ -76,8 +76,9 @@
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <p>The following are usefull svn/https locations:
>>>>>>>  <ul>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -     <li>svn site <a
>>>>>>> href="http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/attic";>http://svn.apache.org/repos/
>>>>>>> asf/attic</a></li> +     <li>svn site <a
>>>>>>> href="http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/attic";>http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf
>>>>>>> /attic</a>: sources in <code>xdocs</code>, generated html in
>>>>>>> <code>docs</code></li>>
>>>>>>>   <li>site <a
>>>>>>>   href="http://attic.apache.org";>http://attic.apache.org</a></li>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> +     <li>internals: <a
>>>>>>> href="https://ci.apache.org/builders/attic-site";>Buildbot job</a> to
>>>>>>> build from source and commit generated html, <a
>>>>>>> href="https://github.com/apache/infrastructure-puppet/blob/deployment/mod
>>>>>>> ules/svnwcsub/files/svnwcsub.conf#L36">svnwcsub configuration</a> to
>>>>>>> update generated html from svn to webserver</li>>
>>>>>>>   <li>jira <a
>>>>>>>   href="https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC";>https://issues.ap
>>>>>>>   ache.org/jira/browse/ATTIC</a></li> <li>committees.xml <a
>>>>>>>   href="https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.apache.org/da
>>>>>>>   ta/committees.xml">https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/comdev/projects.a
>>>>>>>   pache.org/data/committees.xml</a></li>>
>>>>>>>  </ul>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 

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