+1 for projects to send their reports.
We may need to add more  Shepherds to highlight the information of
podling reports.

Willem Jiang

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On Fri, Apr 22, 2022 at 1:19 PM Christofer Dutz
<christofer.d...@c-ware.de> wrote:
>
> But reporting isn't the incubators way of punishing podling. It's the way we 
> know how they are doing.
>
> Yes it was our fault for not pinging them in time, but I really would love to 
> see reports, that we missed.
>
> But what do the others think?
>
> Chris
>
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> ________________________________
> From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2022 2:29:16 PM
> To: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline
>
> Hi Christofer
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 4:47 AM Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> >
> > guess I missed the second part of your email ;-)
> >
> > Well, I am a bit unsure if we really should skip the ones that for example
> > missed to submit last month because nobody reminded them, but I think in
> > such a case it would be half a year of information missing. Even if this
> > might not be too useful for the board, I think it's useful to the IPMC.
> >
>
> Basically, I can't (personally) fault a podling for not reporting when no
> reminders were sent out.  We failed to hold up our side of the agreement in
> my mind.  It's great that some podlings still did the work to get a report
> put together.  Perhaps we review those in the past 3 months of missed
> reports and also report them? I'm not sure.
>
>
> >
> > So, I think podlings that missed filling in their parts in the last 3
> > months, should still report this time. But that's just my opinion.
> >
>
> I agree with you, the problem is that every podling (other than new
> podlings possibly) has missed a report (at least from the board's point of
> view).  While there's the main review the IPMC takes on the podlings'
> reports, the board also reviews them.  Since the IPMC lapsed on maintaining
> this, it may end up over burdening the board to put out a report that has
> every single podling reporting in it.
>
>
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 21. April 2022 10:42
> > To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline
> >
> > I should also add that some projects have failed to submit in the last 3
> > months, so I would add to this list:
> >
> > - brpc
> > - Annotator
> > - Crail
> > - EventMesh
> > - Flagon
> > - Hivemail
> > - InLong
> > - Liminal
> > - Marvin-AI
> > - Milagro
> > - Nemo
> > - Pony Mail
> > - Spot
> > - Teaclave
> > - Wayang
> >
> > So, we're also expecting these projects to report this month.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John D. Ament <johndam...@apache.org>
> > Sent: Mittwoch, 20. April 2022 18:24
> > To: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
> > Subject: May 2022 Podling Reporting Timeline
> >
> > Note - I'm sending this a week early per procedure as we have some catch
> > up to do.
> >
> > May 2022 Incubator report timeline:
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/INCUBATOR/May2022
> >
> >     Wed May 04 -- Podling reports due by end of day
> >     Sun May 08 -- Shepherd reviews due by end of day
> >     Sun May 08 -- Summary due by end of day
> >     Tue May 10 -- Mentor signoff due by end of day
> >     Wed May 11 -- Report submitted to Board
> >     Wed May 18 -- Board meeting
> >
> > According to podlings.xml, the following podlings are expected to report:
> > - Training
> > - Heron
> > - Tuweni
> > - Pagespeed
> > - Toree
> > - Livy
> > - NLPCraft
> > - Sedona
> > - Doris
> > - SDAP
> > - Linkis
> >
> > I'm suggesting that right now we keep the current reporting periods as we
> > the Incubator PMC have failed to report to the Board, rather than it
> > necessarily being a failing of podlings.  If your podling is on this list
> > but isn't present on the confluence page, please add it with the necessary
> > sections.  i'll take a look in the next few days and make sure podlings.xml
> > represents reality.
> >
> > - John, your friendly neighborhood Report Manager
> >

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