Hi all, And in the last few months the ASF has sadly seen enough cases, in which even big projects suffered from the lack of diversity. So, I would also consider this to be a blocker.
Community building isn’t something that happens or comes for free. It’s actually hard work, but it needs to be done. Just my opinion on this topic. Chris From: Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> Date: Wednesday, 7. December 2022 at 02:59 To: general@incubator.apache.org <general@incubator.apache.org> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Apache Tuweni graduation It looks like we need a dedicated community leader[1] to build a diverse community (just borrow a pattern from InnerSource Common[2]). " Communication takes up a significant percentage of a community leader's daily work. At the same time, he or she will likely also have to spearhead the initial development, too. In the face of limited capacity, inexperienced leaders will tend to focus on development and neglect communication. The barrier for potential contributors to make their first contribution and to commit to the community will be much higher if the community leader is hard to reach or is slow to respond to feedback and questions for lack of time." [1]https://github.com/InnerSourceCommons/InnerSourcePatterns/blob/main/patterns/2-structured/dedicated-community-leader.md#forces [2]https://innersourcecommons.org/ Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 9:51 AM larry mccay <lmc...@apache.org> wrote: > > I'm not so sure that I see this as a blocker for graduation. > There was enough consensus and testing to spin and publish 14 releases. > There has been healthy conversation about this very topic among the mentors > and contributors on the private list. > > The nature of this project is that the consumption of these libraries are > going to get less traction while in incubation and a community may grow > larger as a TLP as confidence is instilled by that status. > > The Tuweni community has demonstrated the ability to publish releases > within that Apache Way and guidelines, has welcomed new contributors, etc. > The long term success will require a larger active community but I don't > think that needs to block graduation as the incubation goals have been met. > > My 2 cents. > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 7:41 PM Willem Jiang <willem.ji...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I agree with Gang Li. The Bus factor[1] of this project is relatively high. > > > > [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor > > > > Willem Jiang > > > > Twitter: willemjiang > > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:06 PM li gang <lgcar...@apache.org> wrote: > > > > > > I checked the contributions of the Tuweni project[1],the traffic of the > > > mail list d...@tuweni.apache.org[2] and the KEYS[3]. > > > > > > It looks like the project is mainly maintained by Antoine Toulme self, > > > I have a concern this is not comply with the diversity. > > > > > > [1]https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/graphs/contributors > > > [2]https://lists.apache.org/list?d...@tuweni.apache.org > > > [3]https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/tuweni/KEYS > > > > > > Antoine Toulme <toulm...@apache.org> 于2022年12月5日周一 15:14写道： > > > > > > > Dear Apache Incubator Community and IPMC members, > > > > > > > > We discussed the graduation for Tuweni in the Apache Incubator > > > > Community [4], where no issues were raised and positive replies were > > > > received. > > > > After having the graduation discussion in the Tuweni community [1], we > > > > have passed the vote within Tuweni community [2] and the vote result > > > > was published [3]. > > > > > > > > I would like to start this voting thread to request graduating Apache > > > > Tuweni(incubating) from Apache Incubator as a Top Level Project. > > > > > > > > Please provide your vote accordingly: > > > > [ ] +1 Yes, I support Tuweni project to graduate from the Apache > > Incubator. > > > > [ ] +0 No opinion. > > > > [ ] -1 No, the Tuweni project is not ready to graduate, because... > > > > > > > > Thank you for participating in the vote. This vote will stay open for > > at > > > > least 72 hours. > > > > > > > > Here is an overview of the Apache Tuweni(incubating) to help with the > > > > vote. > > > > > > > > *Community* > > > > > > > > ● The PPMC is active, with PMC members voting for graduation along with > > > > mentors. > > > > ● 6 new committers were added, bringing the total number of committers > > to > > > > 14 from 12 different > > > > organizations. > > > > ● The number of contributors is now 25 and growing. > > > > ● The dev@Tuweni mailing list currently has 33 subscribers [4]. > > > > > > > > *Project* > > > > > > > > ● Apache Tuweni (incubating) is a set of libraries and other tools to > > aid > > > > development of blockchain and other decentralized software in Java and > > > > other JVM languages. It includes a low-level bytes library, > > serialization > > > > and deserialization codecs (e.g. RLP), various cryptography functions > > and > > > > primitives, and lots of other helpful utilities. Tuweni is developed > > for > > > > JDK 11 or higher. > > > > ● Project maturity model and incubation status is detailed in [5] > > > > ● Tuweni has been incubating [5] since 2019-02-25 for over 45 > > > > months. > > > > ● Tuweni community released a total of 14 Apache releases [6]. > > > > ● 331 pull requests created closed [7]. > > > > ● 76 issues created, and 46 issues closed [8]. > > > > ● The release cadence is about 3 months. > > > > > > > > *Brand, License, and Copyright* > > > > > > > > ● We submitted an application for the brand [9] and it has been > > > > reviewed and approved. > > > > ● Tuweni community maintains project code on GitHub and all modules > > > > code is under Apache 2.0 license. We have reviewed all the > > > > dependencies and ensured they do not bring any license issues [10]. > > > > All the status files, license headers, and copyright are up to date. > > > > ● Tuweni official website [11] is compliant with Apache Foundation > > > > requirements [12]. > > > > > > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/z3flpmqcss21xc8vmtwqqfs961p4g9t5 > > > > [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/c04cmvfwh1wt2mxmc9zo89o6bnhm2xqk > > > > [3] https://lists.apache.org/thread/8m4lq3k1v93m1k482syj7kn1ldb62665 > > > > [4] https://lists.apache.org/list.html?d...@tuweni.apache.org > > > > [5] https://incubator.apache.org/projects/tuweni.html > > > > [6] https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/releases > > > > [7] https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/pulls > > > > [8] https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/issues > > > > [9] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/PODLINGNAMESEARCH-167 > > > > [10] https://github.com/apache/incubator-tuweni/blob/main/LICENSE > > > > [11] https://tuweni.apache.org > > > > [12] https://whimsy.apache.org/pods/project/tuweni > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > Best Regards > > > > > > DolphinScheduler PMC > > > Gang Li 李岗 > > > > > > lgcar...@apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
