Daniel Cerqueira wrote:
Jacob Bachmeyer <jcb62...@gmail.com> writes:

The problem here is that, while the key never leaves the smartcard,
the /entire/ device that accesses the smartcard must be trusted, as a
backdoor on the device could steal plaintext or submit extra items for
signing.  A PIN does not solve the problem, since the PIN is entered
on the device, which could be backdoored to store the PIN and submit
it along with Mallory's messages for the smartcard to sign---and the
card will sign it, since the PIN checks out...

Smartcards make silently duplicating the key difficult (supposedly
infeasible) but do not solve the general problems with
network-connected devices.

If you don't trust pinentry, maybe you should also not trust gnupg. They
are from the same project (gnupg.org).

I believe is best for you not to use gnupg and pinentry, until you
review it.

My point is that smartcards do not magically increase security beyond the private key wrapping encryption built in to GPG, and provide little actual security benefit unless less-common steps (such as using a card reader with its own PIN pad) are taken. (The convenience of being able to simply move the card between devices may be useful for some users.)

The issue here is not GPG or its associated pinentry program or any question of their integrity. The issue is the possibility of the computer being tampered while I am away from it, or potentially, via the network, right under my nose. (Consider the overall security of the typical Android device.) So far, smartcards do not seem to provide any better protection in this case than GPG's own security features. Such tampering would enable the theft of the GPG key passphrase or card PIN in either case. In other words, the same attacks that can effectively break GPG's built in security also effectively break a smartcard by enabling the unauthorized use of the key on the card.

That is ignoring the additional risk that few if any smartcards use Free firmware, and are, by design, nearly impossible to verify. A secret backdoor on the smartcard cannot be categorically ruled out, although such a violation of trust would be expected to effectively remove the card's manufacturer from the market should it come to light.


-- Jacob


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