Thanks for the many excellent comments; I personally learned quite a bit. I do think we are close to wrapping up this thread in the interest of keeping gossip fairly low traffic and focused. Gossip has about 150 subscribers and I suspect most of them are pretty busy people.
Due to the changes over the last few days (particularly the increased use of blocklists) contact me if you experience a sudden problem in an archive. If you cannot contact me due to mail being blocked, please relay the message through someone who has been participating in this discussion. Let me address the filmscanners situation. The filmscanners list has relatively weird headers for a list due to using some non-traditional list software. The headers somewhat look like direct private mail, which incidentally is what most of the incoming spam looks like. These headers are marginal for the sorting engine. Mail-Archive will do the right thing, if it knows there is already a filmscanners archive and is keeping an eye out for more messages. Otherwise it doesn't work. Back in May/April there was a big restore from backup, and during that process, some state information was reset and Mail-Archive forgot that filmscanners existed. Now that I've manually reminded the sort engine, filmscanners traffic should sort correctly. But the engine will forget again if there is no traffic on the list for 21 days. The best solution is for filmscanners to use more traditional headers, and in particular it would be nice to see the filmscanners listname somewhere in to To: or CC: fields. That's the common case, and the sort engine handles it most efficiently. Finally, despite the plea for winding down, I can't resist sharing a few more motivations. I dislike being treated like a potential criminal, whether it is being searched at the airport, having to carry a bunch of little cards all the time that essentially say I am me, or living under the thumb of an anti-copying mechanism for some proprietary software. I hate treating other people like potential criminals. And I hate all the stupid side effects, from the annoyance of losing my car keys to the missed opportunities when someone is prevented from providing a useful internet service because they are too boxed in. Mail-Archive is kind of Established these days, but for the first year of existence it ran off a cable modem in an apartment complex in New Jersey. I am trying to say that I have to be sensitive to world realities for the project to survive. I am also sensitive to personal ideals, goals, interests - life is way too short, and I'd prefer to spend it on stuff that counts. Fortunately, the Mail-Archive project is blessed with far more flexibility than most, and also an excellent community of people to help advise on the tough tradeoffs. For that I am grateful. Cheers, Jeff _______________________________________________ Gossip mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mail-archive.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gossip
