lmao... On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Shane Arnold <clontar...@iinet.net.au>wrote:
> Dear VALVe, > > Shit's broken. Please fix it. > > Regards. > > Octo wrote: > > I'm very glad I asked then, I wouldn't want to get the wrong people. > > You can send me the id either on list or at this email address, as you > > pointed out my detective skills aren't very strong so any assistance > > from you would be appreciated. > > > > When you made your initial comment about doing it many many times I > > assumed you were just a random griefer who hangs out on the mailing list > > but seeing as that you are actually a Game and System admin I feel bad > for > > your user base. I hope that you're a bit more proactive about > > notifying vendors about problems in their software when you're wearing > > your system admin hat. > > > > -octo > > > > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:51:06PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > >> At the risk of taking this email thread completely off topic, I am > >> neither of those two accounts you have linked to (I'm Australian mate, > >> g'day!). It is not my responsibility to advise VALVe of flaws in the > >> game design rules of their software, as I don't work for them nor have > >> anything to do with the game mechanics and the decisions made there-in. > >> > >> I'm pretty sure VALVe know about this design flaw. I'm also pretty damn > >> sure they have more important bugs and changes to make before doing a > >> quick-fix (and incidentally, forcing all TF2 servers in the world to > >> update for something that is a relatively minor issue). > >> > >> But I do appreciate your concern regarding my use of a flaw in the game > >> Octo, and I will quite happily provide you with my STEAMID so you can > >> ban me from servers I will never play on. Ever. > >> > >> Kind Regards and Happy Posting! > >> > >> - Shane Arnold, Games/Systems Administrator of Nowhere Near the UK, > Earth. > >> > >> (P.S awesome detective skills there Watson!) > >> > >> Octo wrote: > >>> I for one am quite happy that you've known about this for a long time > >>> but didn't let us (and presumably Valve) know so that it could be fixed > or > >>> worked around. > >>> > >>> Since you admit to abusing this to grief servers I was going to ban you > >>> from my servers (we long ago hit our asshole quota) but I didn't see > TF2 > >>> on your game list. If you could send me your proper TF2 steamid or > >>> community page I'd appreciate it. > >>> > >>> I found http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197977227655 and > >>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197996285534 . I'm not sure > if the > >>> second one is you or not. > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance. > >>> > >>> -octo > >>> > >>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:41:41PM +0800, Shane Arnold wrote: > >>>> OK let me rephrase. > >>>> > >>>> It has been around for a very, very long time. I should know, I've > used > >>>> this flaw many many times. > >>>> > >>>> Regards. > >>>> > >>>> Ben Williams wrote: > >>>>> Nope. > >>>>> > >>>>> I've only ever heard about this exploit since the 15th. > >>>>> > >>>>> Everything that Octo linked to is POST 15th. > >>>>> > >>>>> It happend in the September 15th update. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 22:14:58 +0800 > >>>>>> From: clontar...@iinet.net.au > >>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I think you may find it's been around a *lot* longer than the 15th. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Ben Williams wrote: > >>>>>>> It's been a bug since the update on the 15th. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I'm hoping Valve are working on it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It can be very annoying and the only way is to disable team > 'Unassigned' > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Smashman > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> From: thunderfox19...@gmail.com > >>>>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:53:31 +0100 > >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hi, > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> This exploit can be done with multiple classes. I have tested it > with clan > >>>>>>>> mates on a private server with Soldier and pyro and it can be done > with > >>>>>>>> these classes but possibly many more. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Tirrel > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>>> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Octo > >>>>>>>> Sent: 27 September 2009 05:15 > >>>>>>>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >>>>>>>> Subject: [hlds] TF2 Demoman Pipe exploit (Teamkill) > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> One of my users pointed me to a video on youtube of a guy > >>>>>>>> exploiting a tf2 bug on my servers.. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTemBE1gvo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Discussion about it can be found at: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=969604 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> I was pointed to this plugin to use as a work around: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?t=104143 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> People I've had exploit it so far: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/KhalidShahin > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:18913704 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197999565993 > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:1:19650132 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> http://steamcommunity.com/id/explorerD/ > >>>>>>>> STEAM_0:0:18270663 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Sorry for the full disclosure, but the number of people trying to > exploit > >>>>>>>> this seems to be growing exponentially already > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -octo > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > >>>>>>>> please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >>>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Get the best of MSN on your mobile > >>>>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >>>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >>>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>>> > >>>>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>>>> > >>>>> MSN straight to your mobile - news, entertainment, videos and more. > >>>>> > >>>>> http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/147991039/direct/01/ > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, please visit: > >>>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >>> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds