Ip forging, not. It is done by using a bot network of compromised PCs. There
is no real way to stop it except on a best effort basis. Gateway spam
filtering is how we do it and having mail server hardware that can handle
the spikes in traffic.



Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 11:26 PM
> To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> 
> 
> It seems that there's no easy solution to really block the 
> problem source.  (how did he do that? IP forging?)  By 
> looking at the IPs in the log almost all of them were 
> originated from Europe (especially from Eastern Europe).  
> Does anyone still have the big IP list posted a while ago?  
> (sorry did not find from the archive yet... taking a shortcut 
> :)  Thanks.
> 
> Tom
> 
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Kevin Bilbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> Date:  Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:45:16 -0800
> 
> Say it with me people.
> 
> Distributed dictionary attack. Sit back hold on and wait for 
> it to end.
> 
> 
> 
> Kevin Bilbee
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Steinar Rasch
> > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 4:27 PM
> > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > Sometimes the user is exists on the server.
> >
> > Other times there will be an invalid user entry in the log.
> >
> > The server is set to No Mail relay.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Steinar
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T 
> > (Lists)
> > Sent: 7. februar 2006 01:07
> > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> >
> > Is the RCPT TO address a real address on your server?
> >
> > If not, you are relaying.
> >
> > John T
> > eServices For You
> >
> > "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum- 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steinar Rasch
> > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:26 PM
> > > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> > >
> > > Does anyone know have to block incomming mails like theese?
> > >
> > > 02:06 23:55 SMTPD(d3e2023100000037) [61.91.163.210] HELO 
> > > mail.epost.no 02:06 23:55 SMTPD(d3e2023100000037) [61.91.163.210] 
> > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02:06 23:55 
> > > SMTPD(d3e2023100000037) [61.91.163.210] RCPT TO: 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > 02:06 23:55 SMTPD(d3e2023100000037) [61.91.163.210]
> > > D:\IMail\spool\Dd3e2023100000037.SMD 566
> > > 02:06 23:55 SMTPD(d3e2023100000037) performing antispam checks
> > >
> > > They keep on coming...
> > >
> > > And every mail has a different IP-address aswell as a 
> different and 
> > > bogus [EMAIL PROTECTED] address.
> > >
> > > I use v8.22 and Declude Pro 3.0.5.23, but I cannot find 
> any settings 
> > > for stopping theese mails.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Steinar
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John T
> > > (Lists)
> > > Sent: 6. februar 2006 22:40
> > > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> > >
> > > He does not know what he means.
> > >
> > > John T
> > > eServices For You
> > >
> > > "Seek, and ye shall find!"
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Imail_Forum- 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steinar Rasch
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:03 PM
> > > > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by:
> > > >
> > > > Why not block the port at the nic interface?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Steinar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Richard 
> > > > Bowman
> > > > Sent: 6. februar 2006 20:32
> > > > To: Imail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > > > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> > > >
> > > > Why not block the port at the nic interface?
> > > >
> > > > Richard
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom
> > > > Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 2:18 PM
> > > > To: IMail_Forum@list.ipswitch.com
> > > > Subject: [IMail Forum] Hard to block bad source
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there a way to block the trouble IP(s) automatically 
> other than
> > > manually
> > > > entering into the iMail Admin's Control List?
> > > >
> > > > There are a few (invalid) addresses being targeted that 
> we got log 
> > > > lines
> > > as
> > > > below.  The source apparently changed its IP every time.  Any
> > suggestion?
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > 20060202 010452 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb34013000000c68) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 1926
> > > > 20060202 010452 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO w0op48.eeuyo6oe.comcast.net
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010453 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb34013000000c68)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > > 20060202 010457 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb39015400000c69) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > LAN_IP port 1396
> > > > 20060202 010554 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb72014e00000c6a) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2394
> > > > 20060202 010555 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb72014e00000c6a)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO OLIVER
> > > > 20060202 010559 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb77014600000c6b) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > LAN_IP port 1404
> > > > 20060202 010559 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb72014e00000c6a)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010600 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb72014e00000c6a)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010601 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb72014e00000c6a)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > C:\IMail\spool\Dcb72014e00000c6a.SMD 2317
> > > > 20060202 010601 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb72014e00000c6a) performing
> > > antispam
> > > > checks
> > > > 20060202 010607 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb72014e00000c6a) taking spf
> > > action:
> > > > XHEADER
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb7f014e00000c6c)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > > 20060202 010608 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb80013000000c6d) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2508
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO a7wgvfqz.uciiceai.cox.net
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010609 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb80013000000c6d)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > > 20060202 010619 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb8b015400000c6e) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2572
> > > > 20060202 010619 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb8b015400000c6e)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO e2s7i.heq4yb.aol.com
> > > > 20060202 010620 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb8b015400000c6e)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > unacceptable mail address in MAIL FROM: 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010630 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cb96014600000c6f) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2673
> > > > 20060202 010630 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO OLIVER
> > > > 20060202 010630 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010631 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010631 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010631 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010631 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010631 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cb96014600000c6f)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > > 20060202 010641 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cba1014e00000c70) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2761
> > > > 20060202 010641 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO OLIVER
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010642 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cba1014e00000c70)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > > 20060202 010652 127.0.0.1       SMTPD 
> (cbac013000000c71) [LAN_IP]
> > connect
> > > > 84.190.104.64 port 2835
> > > > 20060202 010652 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > EHLO OLIVER.augv.net
> > > > 20060202 010654 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > MAIL FROM: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010655 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010655 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010655 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > > RCPT TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > 20060202 010655 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > ERR
> > > > mail.neptunefoods.com invalid user <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 20060202 010655 127.0.0.1       SMTPD (cbac013000000c71)
> > [84.190.104.64]
> > > Max
> > > > Invalid RCPTs Exceeded
> > > >
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