https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179678
--- Comment #105 from shevegen <sheve...@gmail.com> --- > It is a great DE and the developers don't mess with root access. I myself use icewm but I use some great KDE applications such as konsole. Okular is also fine. I don't use KDE5 myself, largely because it became too much of a hassle to compile it from source. I can compile most of it but then "startx" no longer works; it crashes soon after it tries to load. KDE3 worked fine; I have no idea why the quality decreased so much. For the record I can compile from source and use startx for icewm, fluxbox, mate-desktop, xfce, lxqt. Somehow the big DEs moved towards Average Joe - which is ok in itself, but they also dumbed things down for the power users immensely. No idea why the KDE devs joined that - perhaps economic reasons. See GNOME. The issue in regards to pestering the superuser is deeper, though and not solely confined to kio or any individual component. I could not use kate as the superuser. I read the code and in the CPP source code there are a few lines #define - so the whole application is deliberately and maliciously crippled via ~5 lines. You remove it, then recompile and it works fine. Other editors don't have this crippling aspect. I have no idea why the kate devs went that route. I tried to explain to them that it is utterly stupid to cripple functionality that works perfectly well. The proper use may be to show a warning but continue to use rather than this "I won't start at all because YOU ARE A BAD BOY". I decide for my own anyway and other editors work fine so why is some random average joe KDE dev thinking he knows it all better? To the point of crippling functionality? The usual "argument" used is "because YOU COULD KILL PEOPLE" aka "damage your system". I could not care any less about it. I care about devs crippling my system randomly and arbitrarily - that part is annoying. THAT is the big problem with both KDE and GNOME - individual devs who think they are right and then subject and subjugate the downstream users. This point is made even worse by the fact that it's just a few crappy #defines. I mean IF you really want to restrict the super user because you hate the super user then at the least write beautiful code that restricts this RATHER THAN THIS CRAP FEW #define STATEMENTS that are an insult to any 8 years old that can use an editor as-is. There used to be a work around for kate via an ENV variable. I tried it - and it did not work. That was years ago. I then complained about it. At first it seemed to effect change, but then, whoever is calling the shots, decided that KDE is now going for the Average Joe and Average Joe is never ever allowed to be super user. Ever. For whatever the reason (again, I don't understand it, but these devs cater to the average joe, and they have a point too - we power users are in the minority now. Everything has been dumbed down and the restrictions to cripple functionality in regards to the superuser is PRECISELY one example of this dumb-down trend. And it will continue, we all know that. The bigger the DE, the more and more dumbed down it will be - just look at GNOME for where KDE is headed. Note: I have nothing against simplifications or usability improvements. What I have something against is the attempt to restrict and cripple users deliberately rather than assume that they know better and can decide for their own - and yes, we can decide, but not when topdown developers want to coerce others into their world view. And THAT is the fundamental problem.) On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 10:44 AM lega99 <bugzilla_nore...@kde.org> wrote: > https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179678 > > --- Comment #104 from lega99 <dragan.le...@mail.ru> --- > (In reply to Bo Weaver from comment #103) > > (In reply to petrk from comment #102) > > > That revert was stuck for a year. I don't see it going anywhere with > > > dissatisfied users being called "vocal minority". > > > > > > I'm not speaking for myself, as I don't mind doing stuff via terminal. > > > However, KDE lately was aiming more towards new users. Why would they > be > > > forced to learn their way around console, or to keep different file > manager > > > just to edit some files in restricted areas? > > > > I wrote about this back in 2019 and they aren't going to listen. The > > developers here seem to know better than you and me and are protecting us > > from ourselves. My best fix found is XFCE. It is a great DE and the > > developers don't mess with root access. BTW I was a KDE user since the > 90's > > and finally gave up. > > Never finished the story, happiness there is a Krusader, so it is possible > to > start this file manager in root mode with sudo. Sometimes a great program > Dolphin is nothing now. Discover the same hour works or doesn't work or > need an > eternity to load update. Every update of the plasme happens, I am > interfering, > I have the impression that something changes and there is no purpose. I > advertised on the forum Thermal Monitor KJI works in all other Linuxima and > only the update plasms from 5.21 to 5.22 it was raiding, Instal Xysguard > does > not help me. Developers are more and more like Windows developers, they > know > what we need and think of us and protect us from ourselves. > > -- > You are receiving this mail because: > You are on the CC list for the bug. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are watching all bug changes.
