On the other hand, if we don’t then we have to keep carrying around a boat-load 
of Legacy rendering code (because we use that for printing).

> On 24 Feb 2018, at 20:16, Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> There is no plan yet but it has been discussed.  The only downside is that we 
> will have to write our own print handling on windows and I'm guessing macos.  
> That's one of the reasons no one has signed up yet because it will be a large 
> undertaking.
> 
> On 02/24/2018 02:02 PM, Jon Evans wrote:
>> Yes I think that's the plan, just needs someone to sign up to write it :)
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018, 14:00 Andrzej Wolski <awolski.ki...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:awolski.ki...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>    Cairo have PDF, SVG and Postscript support. I was once wondering if
>>    GAL/Cairo could be used for printing.
>>    Andrzej
>>    W dniu 2018-02-24 o 19:24, Jon Evans pisze:
>>>    Yeah, there (at least) three different dialogs that all present
>>>    similar things (i.e. a list of layers to include, settings, etc):
>>> 
>>>    Export->SVG
>>>    Print
>>>    Plot
>>> 
>>>    The Print code for Export->SVG seems to just use the same SVG
>>>    plotter, so maybe it's just mostly GUI cleanup that is needed.
>>> 
>>>    The main Print code does need an overhaul to use something other
>>>    than wxDC for graphics generation (and perhaps adding some more
>>>    features to PDF export)
>>> 
>>>    -Jon
>>> 
>>>    On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:16 PM, Jeff Young <j...@rokeby.ie
>>>    <mailto:j...@rokeby.ie>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>        Plot SVG and Export SVG are different.  The former goes
>>>        through the Plot code while the later goes through the Print
>>>        code.
>>> 
>>>        Do we need both?  I haven’t a clue.
>>> 
>>>        It would be nice to clean this stuff up, if there is in fact a
>>>        clean way to present it.
>>> 
>>>        Cheers,
>>>        Jeff.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>        On 24 Feb 2018, at 14:54, Jon Evans <j...@craftyjon.com
>>>>        <mailto:j...@craftyjon.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        I agree with this! It has always tripped me up when I switch
>>>>        back and forth between kicad and other EDA tools.
>>>> 
>>>>        On Feb 24, 2018 9:31 AM, "Diego Herranz"
>>>>        <diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com
>>>>        <mailto:diegoherr...@diegoherranz.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>            Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>            Now that so much work is happening on re-structuring
>>>>            menus, I've remembered something I have always found
>>>>            weird on pcbnew.
>>>> 
>>>>            "Plot", from wihch you can obtain Gerbers is not inside
>>>>            "Fabrication Outputs", but on its own.
>>>>            I find it weird to have the drill option inside
>>>>            "Fabrication Outputs" but not the Gerbers (they are
>>>>            normally needed together and in fact, you can go to
>>>>            "Drill" from "Plot").
>>>> 
>>>>            If "Plot" was Gerber only, I would recommend moving it
>>>>            inside "Fabrication Outputs" straight away but because it
>>>>            also exports other formats, it's not so straightforward.
>>>> 
>>>>            I think ideally we would have:
>>>> 
>>>>            - Fabrication outputs
>>>>              - Gerber...
>>>>              - Drill
>>>>              - ...
>>>>            - Export
>>>>              - STEP
>>>>              - PDF...
>>>>              - Postcript...
>>>>              - DXF...
>>>>              - ...
>>>> 
>>>>            And I have just noticed SVG can be obtained from "Plot"
>>>>            or the "Export" submenu. Is it the same?
>>>> 
>>>>            What do you guys think? I'm not necessarily suggesting
>>>>            looking into this before KiCad 5, just wanted to have
>>>>            your view.
>>>> 
>>>>            Thanks,
>>>>            Diego
>>>> 
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