Am Montag, 3. Oktober 2016, 10:41:05 schrieb Andrew:
> On 02.10.2016 23:37, Erich Titl wrote:
> > Hi Andrew
> > 
> > Am 02.10.2016 um 19:58 schrieb Andrew:
> >> On 02.10.2016 20:45, Erich Titl wrote
> >> 
> > :...
> > :
> >>> We need to find out if this is an issue for the majority of our users.
> >>> most of the drivers will probably just work as they work in standad
> >>> distros.
> >> 
> >> This is issue for everybody who uses intel server cards in high-load
> >> applications.
> > 
> > Yes and this is why I asked if this was an issue for the _majority_
> 
> I don't know statistics how much people uses LEAF as home box/small
> office router, and how much people uses LEAF somewhere in production
> environment with high traffic.
> I know at least some people who uses LEAF in production (access
> servers/borders/etc), and I know only one case of usage as office
> router(just because soho router in that place frequently hangs).
> 
> > ...
> > 
> >> Actually intel NIC card is the only available choice for high-troughput
> >> routing. Other cards have too high CPU usage, or starts to drop packets
> >> at 60-70% of bandwidth usage.
> > 
> > So on a Gbit card you would have a throughput of roughly 600 Mbit. For
> > most users and I said _most_ users they will never be able to buy that
> > much power.
> > 
> > And unless you have a massive parallel system you will have difficulties
> > to pass that much data through any kind of traffic management. I
> > observed issues in that aera, never at NIC level.
> > 
> > So - yes, if it isn't a home routing box,
> > 
> >> it uses Intel NIC.
> > 
> > Still the same question, is this an issue for the majority and therefore
> > a killer criterion? It might well be so, but I would like to know numbers.
> > 
> > I for once do not have any intel NICs in usage, but yes, I did use them
> > a few years back and might have been happy to have hight troughput, but;
> > even then I never had a saturation issue at hand. YMMV
> > 
> > Still I would not consider it a killer criterion, but yes, if someone is
> > willing to put in the effort to overcome limitations in that area,
> > great. I understand that you are working in a high speed/throughput
> > environment and there I see of course the usefulness of having
> > specialized drivers, but I _guess_ the majority of our users are not
> > limited there. They have problems in the integration of some of our
> > packages as seen lately in the leaf-user list.
> > 
> > cheers and yes, please if you have spare time to integrate those
> > drivers, go for it.
> > 
> > ET
> 
> It isn't too hard to integrate them. I'll try to update drivers to
> latest version in master (which is 4.4-based), because there's no
> 4.7-based branch in git.

This was meant as testing what has to be done when moving to a newer kernl, 
prefrrably a LTS as well.
And it occured that migrations issues will be with e1000e and igb.

There will be enough time to solve once we move on.

kp

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