Bruce "Shyer" is on a -paid for by IBM- team. Tony Stanco is on a -paid for by IBM team-. Ed Black is -bought and paid for by- IBM. (smile). Before you jump too quick to conclusions, ask IBM and get back to me. By the way the CCIA mission statement on its website (www.ccianet.org) reads: CCIA's mission is to further our members' business interests by being the leading industry advocate in promoting open, barrier-free competition in the offering of computer and communications products and services worldwide...." Res Ipse Loquitur.
I have no problems with it...like I said, I'd be happy to have a check from IBM too. Its just time to end the mythology that Linux is something that people who are above "money" sell. Linux is a business product. It makes money. It makes more money as it is advertised, promoted and sold, etc. Linux salesman are capitalists, not philanthropists. I don't see a difference, nor do I think it is objectionable. Aside from all that, you were at the conference when Bruce Perens conceded that the GPL has commercial limitations. Ask Ed to give you a copy of the tape. The original point of my comment was that there are a number of software developers that want more commercial capability with the Linux platform. This has been a real concern for open source developers for many years. Developers asking real questions about this deserve real answers, not hype. BSD, MIT and other licenses date the GPL. Presently, there are hundreds of variations of open source licenses that people choose to do business with. Some just "happen" to conflict with the GPL on legitimate grounds. Just because someone asks a question about the GPL doesn't make them a conspirator. kb -----Original Message----- From: Robin 'Roblimo' Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 12:56 AM To: Ken Brown Subject: Re: For Approval: Open Source Software Alliance License Ken Brown wrote: >Big Rick, > >Your IBM funded-man Tony Stanco has the tape. You should ask him for a >copy. By the way, I see quite of bit of IBM money moving around Washington >these (ie. Ed Black, Bruce Schneir et al.) Let them know that I have no >problem AdTI would be happy to accept far less money than those guys are >getting to support our research. > I just got off the phone with Bruce Schneier* (before reading your email) and he told me the report he and Dan and the rest released through CCIA was not funded by anyone to the best of his knowledge. "If it was," he said, "I didn't get any." And don't worry, Ken: Your bud Jonathan Zuck at ACT is on the case, fighting Ed Black and the other Marxists. Why, we even gave him a platform at NewsForge to tell The Truth: http://newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=03/09/24/2333239 Or are you just jealous that Jonathan got funding for anti-studies and you didn't? :) - Robin 'Roblimo' Miller "proudly funded by many OSDN sponsors -- including both Microsoft and IBM" *Bruce and I both spell his last name "Schneier" but we are probably wrong. -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3