Business wise, rails / php etc are not even on the same scale as lift. Rails / 
PHP etc are cheap, easy ways to deploy *sites*. Lift is for building serious 
*web applications*. there is a distinct difference... and yes, for these 
reasons no doubt the higher cost of deployment will scare some people off, but 
personally, im not too worried about that as its not the kind of people we 
want. That is not to say those people aren't smart and pragmatic, rather, its a 
case of "horses for courses"... and Lift quite possibly isn't the weapon of 
choice for an agency just banging out dynamic sites.

If however, you want to build a proper web application, you'll quickly out-grow 
rails and friends. This is where Lift shines. The issue is not a technological, 
its a business one - Lift will ultimately be cheaper to maintain, less 
error-prone, cheaper to scale and a bunch of other good stuff. None of this 
stuff matters to the person who wants £5.99 hosting, so Lift is totally the 
wrong tool for them.

Your making the mistake of assuming that we want mass-market share. That is not 
to say we don't want to grow, but it has to be the right type of growth... for 
the right reasons, and in the right areas. 

Cheers, Tim



On 7 Mar 2010, at 02:09, cageface wrote:

> I think you're making a common programmer's mistake of assuming the
> people that value aesthetics aren't capable of making deeper
> distinctions. The working web programmer that wants to move beyond
> Rails/Django/PHP has a ton of options right now and is much more
> likely to pick something that looks polished and ready to use and not
> like yet another impractical academic exercise. If your intent is to
> scare people like that away you're probably succeeding but that also
> means that people like that aren't trying Lift out on little test
> sites, then bigger sites, then selling it to management and adding to
> your list of success stories.
> 
> Who knows, maybe your strategy of growing Lift top-down with the
> eggheads will pay off. TBH it sounds disturbingly reminiscent of the
> kind of ivory tower arguments I've heard functional programming
> apologists make for many years now.

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