Yes, that's an excellent compromise On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:24 PM Leslie Turek <leslie.tu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Someone at the open meeting made a good point. The local bike riders want > to have expanded bike trails in order to have a network that would assist > them to commute around town without having to ride on the dangerous narrow > roads. A perfectly reasonable request. But the trails that were designated > in the proposed plan were small dense networks, such as at Mt. Misery, that > really didn't help much to help with that goal. I would like to see a plan > that was specifically focussed on allowing people to travel around town, so > that there would be only one bike-allowed trail through a specific area, > with the rest of the trails reserved for walkers only. > > Leslie Turek > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 5:18 PM Margaret Olson <marga...@margaretolson.com> > wrote: > >> To put paths along all our major roads with no paths currently would >> require a serious commitment by the town. It could be done, but we would >> need to either spend very large amounts of money or make the roads with >> problems (limited right of way, ledge, wetlands) one way in order to devote >> a lane to a path. We would also need to remove most of the slip lanes. The >> majority of major roads with no path currently have a problem. Short of >> that level of commitment the trails are part of the network to get around >> town on foot or on bike. >> >> For a data point, a roadside path on Weston road had a rough estimate of >> 7-8 million assuming we could acquire the easements. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:56 PM Jennifer Goodman <jgood...@antioch.edu> >> wrote: >> >>> No one’s arguing whether bikes should exist in our town. But Amsterdam >>> is a city. Mt Misery is the woods. Let’s keep bikes on sidewalks and roads, >>> as they are in Boston. It does feel dangerous to me to have them on the >>> trails. When I’m walking with bikes around, I hear the ‘on your left’ about >>> a nanosecond before they are on top of me, and it's impossible to react in >>> time. In what way is this an improvement? And will all the dogs at Mt >>> Misery react fast enough, or in the right direction to get out of the way? >>> Sounds like a mess waiting to happen. Especially if it’s “mostly kids." And >>> I thought the ticks were the biggest challenge about a walk at Mt Misery. >>> Well, maybe it’s aptly named after all? >>> >>> On Jun 1, 2022, at 4:50 PM, Margaret Olson <marga...@margaretolson.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Doug - that's a great reminder that what we're talking about when >>> it comes to bikes on trails in Lincoln in 2022 is mostly kids with some >>> adults on errands and short casual trips. The serious mountain bikers >>> aren't interested. I'm guessing, but this is probably why our neighboring >>> towns have no problems; their trails aren't any more compelling to an adult >>> than ours are. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:00 PM Doug Carson <dougcarso...@yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think Margaret makes some great points here... >>>> >>>> Not only was Lincoln Guide Service attracting cyclists to Lincoln, but >>>> mountain biking was a relatively new sport in the 90s. Boston folks were >>>> coming to the Lincoln trails to *try* mountain biking. Those days are long >>>> gone...not because bikes are banned from most of our trails (as Margaret >>>> points out, Weston & Concord permit bikes on trails, yet they're not >>>> overrun with riders)...but because the sport has grown up. And as lovely >>>> as our trails are, they are not much of a mountain biking destination >>>> anymore. There are far too many better destinations that attract Boston >>>> mountain bikers. >>>> As our town thinks about this issue, let's keep in mind that with >>>> increasing traffic and gas prices, and of course the environmental issues, >>>> the more cars off the road, the better. Now imagine you can avoid one more >>>> drive to the post office, school, the library, Donelans, etc. because you >>>> could now use a mix of roads AND trails to get around town...I believe that >>>> would be a more desirable place to live. >>>> There are growing pains with any change (and rude people wherever you >>>> go). I recall visiting Amsterdam a few years ago with all the people >>>> biking everywhere there; I almost got run over on several occasions! But >>>> as a pedestrian there, I quickly figured out how to navigate. Point being >>>> that even good change takes some time to get used to it! >>>> >>>> Doug Carson >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, June 1, 2022, 01:34:17 PM EDT, Margaret Olson < >>>> marga...@margaretolson.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I'd like to remind everyone that bikes are permitted on the Weston and >>>> Concord town trails with no adverse effects that this regular walker (24 >>>> years) can detect. Nor have I heard that there are problems on those >>>> trails. I am often on the Weston trails as I live near them. >>>> >>>> Twenty five years ago the Lincoln Guide Service did create a problem on >>>> the trails - but it is long gone. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 1:07 PM Barbara Peskin <bpeski...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> *Correction - 8 miles to 19...* >>>> >>>> Hi Lincoln Talk, >>>> I haven't had a chance to read all the comments but I know people have >>>> mentioned that the Conservation Commission is meeting tonight and vote on >>>> whether to enact proposed changes to trail use that include going from 8 to >>>> 19 miles of trails for recreational bike use and giving permits to large >>>> bike groups to use the trails and parking areas. >>>> >>>> As a 25+ year walker on Lincoln Trails and cherisher of nature on those >>>> walks, my main concern with proposed changes is that it will invite metro >>>> west bike groups to our trails and parking areas. I sent in a detailed >>>> letter and attended both forums. I can't attend tonight but my hope is they >>>> will postpone enacting changes and hear from more walkers and nature >>>> cherishers. >>>> >>>> If you would like to get a copy of my letter which is in the public >>>> record I'm happy to share it - it will give you more info. >>>> >>>> I've seen other wonderful arguments and letters asking to keep bike >>>> groups off the trails for a variety of reasons as well. >>>> >>>> I'll close here with the thought that at the last forum one LIncoln >>>> biker said he appreciates nature when biking on the trails alone - >>>> unfortunately the proposed sweeping changes to the trail use all over town >>>> is going to bring in bike groups - it's not about one or two Lincoln bike >>>> riders. >>>> >>>> Thanks for listening. Please contact me if you would like more thoughts >>>> on this. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Barbara >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> Barbara Peskin >>>> >>>> *My Moments in Nature Photo Gallery: barbarapeskin.com >>>> <http://barbarapeskin.com/>* >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>>> Browse the archives at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>>> Change your subscription settings at >>>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>>> >>>> -- >>> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >>> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >>> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >>> Browse the archives at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >>> Change your subscription settings at >>> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >>> >>> >>> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Search the archives at http://lincoln.2330058.n4.nabble.com/. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >>
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