Ginger was hit by a school bus. The problem is not limited to people
cutting through. Let’s please stop pretending our safety problems are
caused by “others”.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:54 PM V Saleme <bmwkbi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a cyclist who resides in this town and accrues on average 250 miles a
> week between trails and the road, I believe it’s important to devise a way
> of getting out of this echo chamber and speak to the broader group of
> people who, let’s face it, use this town as a cut through. They are the
> problem, not the local residents.
>
> If I had to hazard to guess, they’re (non Lincoln residents) not on
> Lincoln Talk and as they execute twice the speed limit minimally, on Tower
> Rd., Deerhaven Rd., Sandy Pond Road, Lincoln Road, Bedford Road (where
> there’s an actual sign that states “cyclists may use entire lane” if you
> can believe it) thus head nodding amongst ourselves is not going to be
> effective.
>
> Vic
>
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:41 PM John Mendelson <johntmendel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And I would strongly urge drivers to slow down, obey the law,
>> <https://www.mass.gov/info-details/mass-general-laws-c90-ss-14> and pay
>> attention to what is in front of them at all times when behind the wheel of
>> a large, powerful object capable of inflicting terrible injuries to
>> walkers, cyclists, and other drivers.
>>
>> There is no clear consensus that high-visibility clothing makes a
>> difference for pedestrian nor cyclist safety so let's please avoid any
>> potential victim-blaming.
>>
>> See:
>>
>>
>> https://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/document/2023/08/21-03_ca_hi-vis_brf_1.pdf
>> (includes multiple peer reviewed studies)
>>
>> and
>>
>>
>> https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/bikes-and-biking/hi-viz-clothing-cyclists/
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 1:21 PM Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I would strongly urge all walkers and bikers to wear some sort of neon/
>>> reflective safety vest.
>>> They are lightweight and cheap and they really help drivers see us.
>>>
>>> Dark clothing, esp at dusk or in mottled shade, makes us disappear.
>>> ------
>>> Sara Mattes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Lynne Smith <ly...@smith.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Fascinating article! As a helmet and goggle wearing cyclist, I’m now
>>> going to be extra careful since some drivers might not recognize me as
>>> human!
>>>
>>> Lynne Smith
>>> 5 Tabor Hill Road
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/5+Tabor+Hill+Road+Lincoln,+MA+01773?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> Lincoln, MA 01773
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/5+Tabor+Hill+Road+Lincoln,+MA+01773?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>> 781-258-1175
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 31 Aug 2023, at 11:24 a.m., Ginger Reiner <ginger.rei...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Julianne,
>>>
>>> That was me. I actually was hit by the school van in the interaction
>>> although I stayed upright and am not hurt. Thanks for reaching out and I’d
>>> love a witness statement.
>>>
>>> To the rest of LincolnTalk, I write this as a reply-all because people
>>> on bikes are sometimes viewed as “less human” or seen as being “not from
>>> Lincoln” (which shouldn’t matter), and I hope that attaching my name to
>>> Julianne’s story might help to counteract both of those impressions.
>>>
>>> https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1369847823001018
>>>
>>> Ginger
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 31, 2023 at 8:59 AM jsug--- via Lincoln <
>>> lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi There,
>>>>
>>>> If you are the cyclist who was nearly hit by the school van on Lincoln
>>>> Road this morning just before 8 am, and you were hoping to report this, I
>>>> wanted to let you know I would be happy to provide witness statement if
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Julianne
>>>> j...@aol.com
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