Lynne, Karla and David make excellent points. One of the challenges the town faces with the community center is the lack of trust in the building committee to size a COA/ParksRec building to meet our needs and not our wishes. I believe the major hill the community is trying to climb is how many seniors actually use the facilities today. Parks and Recreation has provided actual attendance figures for all of the activities. COA has provided only maximum and minimum numbers without means or averages. The maximum and minimums for a particular activity can vary greatly with the maximum being sometimes triple the minimum headcount. For residents who are not awash in money, in may be hard to justify building a larger council on aging for the occasional activities that may need more space once every three months. Wayland, a town with twice the senior population compared to Lincoln just built a new Senior Center for 11 Million dollars. Their building that meets the needs of a town with twice the senior population is 12,900 square feet. Our small, medium and large Community Center proposals are 16K, 18K or 20+k.
I believe the Building Committee should ask Fincom or the Select board to fund a consultant to provide average and mean numbers from the COA computer system so that the community can see the actual consistent usage of today's COA. As someone who is familiar with computers, I believe the town could easily also find several residents (representing different groups within the town) who might volunteer their time to provide the needed computer expertise to extract the needed average and mean numbers from COAs computer system and generate more meaningful usage statistics for the community. Let's not overbuild a public building again. Peter Buchthal Weston Rd. On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 3:13 PM Michael Dembowski <mjdembow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Reinforcing Lynne's point - there are not insignificant costs req'd of > re-use of existing buildings- especially those anticipating assembly type > spaces with higher use and occupancy. > These start w/ the design team fees for professional assessment and > recommendations to which cost estimates must be produced. The various > building system upgrades required to meet and satisfy current building, > energy, plumbing codes and more oftentimes (quite easily) exceed the > threshold by which MA Building Code then (rightfully so) requires > accessibility upgrades- including improvements to site, entries, > provision/install of an accessible elevator, toilet room resizing for added > fixtures and increased clearances, new building and room signage, revised > mounting height of fire alarm devices, light switches throughout - > and more. None of this invalidates the potential reuse of existing > buildings, only the thinking that this alternative is a 'slam-dunk' for > significant cost savings. > Michael Dembowski > Conant Road > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:12 PM llas902551--- via Lincoln < > lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: > >> To those interested. All available existing town bldgs have been looked >> at MULTIPLE TIMES and need much renovation at considerable expense. >> Unfortunately because not only LEAP but P&R need space. So the cost has >> now increased. >> By using other bldgs their is rent and owner requirements. And would not >> belong to town. >> And Their are many state/ town / school requirements at the ONLY sight >> available on school grounds. >> I'll add that the planning of the CC was well thought out for many yrs . >> Hopefully when more of you need elder services we will have an appropriate >> space. >> Thank you. >> Lynne LaSpina FLCOA & HS >> Sent from AOL on Android >> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aol.mobile.aolapp> >> >> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 10:42 AM, Forest Brown >> <forestbrow...@gmail.com> wrote: >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- >> The LincolnTalk mailing list. >> To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. >> Browse the archives at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/. >> Change your subscription settings at >> https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. >> >> -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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