Yes democracy is a terrible form of government- it just happens to be better than anything else
Our high tax bills are a product of a tiny population, 40% conservation land and the desire to provide all the facilities of a much larger town with much higher tax revenues. I would be thrilled to see the community center voted down in March. But I will also accept the decision at the March town meeting. On Wed, Dec 20, 2023 at 3:48 PM Adam M Hogue <adam.m.ho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes and there was the famous meeting where few people showed up and voted > down state funding for the school and cost us 60 plus million dollars > because the vocal minority showed up. So we can thank our high tax bills > on this horrible process. > > *Adam M Hogue* > *Cell: **(978) 828-6184 <(978)%20828-6184>* > > On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:19 PM, Sara Mattes <samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ah-thank you for filling in blanks and adding more nuance. > I hope others read this and add their memories too. > > > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Dec 19, 2023, at 11:06 PM, iearler...@verizon.net wrote: > > I was at that meeting. And after listening to Dr. Wang and others, the > petition was amended to accept the Peace Pole as a gift from the people of > Japan, rather than the government. > > > On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 09:02:10 PM EST, Sara Mattes < > samat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > During some of those extended debates, I sometimes learned a lot. > > There was a famous meeting in the mid 1980s where the town was asked to > accept a “Peace Pole” form Japan. > It was a Citizens Petition that no one expected to be very controversial. > Who would/could be against a Peace Pole? > > It was my ignorance not to realize that many who had come from China or > had descended from those who had, had very strong feelings about Japan. > Dr. An Wang was one of them. > He stood before us explain his powerful emotions at the thought-how it > triggers memories of the brutal treatment he and his family had endured, > and that other Chinese had endured at the hands of the Japanese during WWII. > We had a history lesson, but it did not end there. > Other got up and spoke to the need to heal -if the Japanese could reach > out to us, after what they had endured too, surely we could all reach out > teach other. > The discussion went on for some time…back and forth. > By the end of the meeting, Dr. Wang expressed his appreciation of our > willingness to listen and that now he felt it was the right thing to do-to > accept the Peace Pole. > > You will find that pole planted in the SW corner of the town pocket park > across from the mall that the Garden Club loving cares for. > > At this recent Town Meeting, most were held to a strict 2 minutes, not > goin on for 10. > In fact, one former town official has his mike cut as he hit the 2.5 > minute mark! > > I, for one, am willing to listen to my fellow citizens, all 15 or more. > Who knows, I might learn something. > > ------ > Sara Mattes > > > > > On Dec 19, 2023, at 8:33 PM, RAandBOB <raand...@earthlink.net> wrote: > > No question annual town meeting could use some improvements. But with > regard to the line at the mike, imagine each of those 15 people wanting to > talk for 10 minutes. I have been to many a town meeting where that did > happen, and believe me, it’s almost beyond enduring. > > Ruth Ann > (She, her, hers) > > On Dec 19, 2023, at 7:49 PM, Terri via Lincoln <lincoln@lincolntalk.org> > wrote: > > > Does anyone know what the COST of the Clickers ARE or the breakdown of how > many we need? > > The December 2nd Town Meeting was 100% proof of how inefficient our Town > voting process is. If you have questions about what I am referring to... > please watch the video of the Dec 2nd Meeting especially if you left early > or missed it. > *It's an eye sore.*... not to mention *disheartening.*..... to watch > > 15 fellow residents standing in line at the Mic waiting patiently to be > "allowed" to speak.. and then abruptly told to sit down. Sad indeed. > > > Theresa Kafina > > > > > > > On Tuesday, December 19, 2023 at 10:38:06 AM EST, ٍSarah Postlethwait < > sa...@bayhas.com> wrote: > > > Like all things in Lincoln- if you want it, you’ll have to fight for it. > > The moderator is against change in general, and it seems that the > “clickers” are unlikely to be purchased until after March, if at all. There > was debate about town meeting being a time to “stand and make your voice > heard” and the clickers make it anonymous. > > Sarah Holden Cannon and Kim Bodner said that we need a cooling off period > after the Dec 2 town meeting. (I fully disagree- this is a perfect time to > fix the process. The HCA vote was clearly rushed because the other two > issues took so much of the day and the people in power had their finger on > the scale. A fair meeting would not allow room for the atrocities that > happened on Dec 2.) > > It sounds like there will be a forum at some point to discuss the issue. > Then it will get kicked down the road more. Jim seemed on board for minor > changes, but the others marked it up to “the vocal minority” outweighing > those who are happy with the process. > > I actually like the idea of town meeting. But I really needs to be more > accessible to more people. And people who aren’t able to spend their entire > day there should still be able to have their vote counted. > > I think that the only way the select board and moderator will even > consider changing anything is if another town is doing it already. So if > you can find proof of other towns with a more progressive town meeting than > ours, that would be really beneficial. > > Sarah P > > > > On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 1:49 PM Deborah Howe via Lincoln < > lincoln@lincolntalk.org> wrote: > > Hi, all -- > > I am writing this post as a private citizen. > > Just to echo, for those who may not have seen it, Jim Hutchinson's good > post on tonight's Select Board meeting, at which the Selects will discuss > the recent Special Town Meeting and responses to it. According to Jim: > > "Our meeting starts at 6:30pm tonight, although I’ll warn you there are a > few things on our agenda before the above topic. See agenda here< > https://www.lincolntown.org/AgendaCenter/ViewFile/Agenda/_12182023-5384> > and zoom link below, and note this discussion will be during the “Special > Town Meeting Reflections” item, which we may pull forward to just before > the public comment period." > > So if you're interested in ways the Town Meeting may be made better for > all, this might be a good meeting to attend. > > Best to you all ~ > > Deb Howe > 88 Wells Road > Sent from iCloud > > > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > > -- > The LincolnTalk mailing list. > To post, send mail to Lincoln@lincolntalk.org. > Browse the archives at https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/private/lincoln/ > . > Change your subscription settings at > https://pairlist9.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/lincoln. > >
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