2008/6/8 Nadav Har'El <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Fri, Jun 06, 2008, Dotan Cohen wrote about "Re: Anti-RTL mindset is > similar to anti-accessibility mindset": >> You try running two toolkits at once on a 400 mHz processor with 128MB RAM, >> tell me how well it runs, then we'll discuss the option. > > When I first used X-Windows, the computer I used it on (a Sun machine) had > a weaker CPU and less memory than what you describe. I don't remember having > any problems running at the same time software using multiple "toolkits", like > Xlib (e.g., xterm), Xaw (which was once popular), Openlook (well, it was a > Sun), Tcl/Tk (this used to be my favorite), Motif, and even GTK (which > appeared > with Gimp circa 1995). > > The fact that software is bloated and sucks isn't a fact of nature and wasn't > even always true. It can, and should be, fixed. There is absolutely no reason > why a toolkit like GTK should bloat the software that uses it. If OpenMoku > can't use GTK because it's too bloated - then please place blame where blame > is due, i.e., on GTK, not on OpenMoku. > > (Sorry for being harsh, and you can always refer to my signature below :-). >
Although I agree that GTK may be bloated, the fact that the current development model of the OpenMoko phone _requires_ one to use two toolkits is the rootof my complaint. I am referring to the model of using a dev's pet toolkit instead of the superior GTK / Qt toolkit. I call GTK / Qt superior because they support the funcionality that many people need, such as RTL in our specific case. ETK _may_ be a good toolkit, but the dev who mothers it does not say why ETK is a better choice than GTK or Qt, so there is no way to argue _for_ ETK. I would love to know what is so great about ETK, really, I would. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?