hi Goh, yes, there is, it is *not* a dell issue, as is clearly explained, also the work around for a bug that one of the devs https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/496435/comments/6 says is not fully tested, the consensus of those who are dealing with problems over at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1516153 is still to use still to use "dpkg-reconfigure" and not apt-get etc.
I'm awaiting the guy who writes up a lot of documentation that we mere mortals use to refer to in order to have a chat with him, I have a strong sense that he will also shrug his shoulders and say that the grub team have messed up (again) and to continue to use the dpkg-reconfigure option. I recall that grub2 came out and totally broke RAID support. They have been playing catch up ever since. Given the chance, I'd use burg as it is more pro-active and re-active to problems. I really do not know why we are arguing over this? Grub 2 can cause major problems when there is more than one hard disk involved - that is beyond dispute. In 9.10 it cannot support RAID, with 10.04 we got a newer version that gave some RAID support, but they would not back port it, when 10.04 came out it had a big fall out with Win7. - that is still a 'work around'. Such a basic part of *nix should not need 'work-arounds', n00bs will not that there is one - It must be sorted out. Should not we be trying to help the OP, it is quite evident there is a problem and people get annoyed over having their computer in a non booting mode? Regardless of any sleek looking graphics, let us not fall into the trap that Microsoft did with Service Pack 2 for XP. When we do tempt people over to *nix, if their first introduction to it is a broken system they will not only never come back, they will tell everyone that *nix breaks computers. That is not acceptable, we are in the hands of the Grub people - so people should complain there and we should ensure that people asking why lubuntu does not work in such situations are clearly told that it is not a fault of lubuntu. Regards, Phill. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 7:27 AM, Goh Lip <g....@gmx.com> wrote: > On Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:12:35 +0100 > Phillip Whiteside <phi...@phillw.net> wrote: > > > Goh, > > > > I'm not quite sure how to explain this to you? > > > > Rule #1 You install *buntu it works, if it does not work it does not > > break anything. > > > > At present it can totally break things. There is no point arguing > > over it, just go see the forum area for people for whom it has broken > > there is no point saying that it is does not, as there are a lot of > > people saying that it does. > > > > The problems with grub2 and Win7 were bad enough under the 'older' > > grub2. You do not seem to have read through that thread fully > > > > some links to read, > > Phillip, have read your links above. To add, there are some problems > not in your links related to Dell's recovery system, raid, lvm and > others.......but not to denigrate your specific issue which is the > failure to install by "install grub-pc" and you have found > success by "sudo apt-get install grub-pc"; yes, you're right, I cannot > see the point arguing that it should just work with "install grub-pc" > and not just "sudo apt-get install grub-pc". You do not seem to have > read how to use 'sudo' and 'apt-get' rather than understanding how to > install grub. > > Are there any more specific issues with grub you like to bring up > rather than saying I haven't read fully? > > Goh Lip > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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