"Biased and don't care either way." That's my last stupid remark of the day, at least this morning,
Bill waves -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear List Members, > > as you can read the Pellison will never assume their acts. > We can give you their answers without doubts as we have their attorney > statements and all the documents in hands: > > 1) Did you use names and parts of private mails out of context to try to > convict the Judge > that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ? > - "Yes we did, the list of names that Bruno & Carine provide you have been > involved > front of the Lyon's Court as supporters of terrorism." (list still available > at the end of this mail) > > 2) -"Yes, the next day we have been sentenced we sent two documents totaling > 64 pages > to all the medias, Institutions and Ministers, in these documents, false > statements and letters; In this way > we did try to show that scientists are corrupt and get money from NWA > dealers to > launder meteorites and meteorites funding." > > 3) Did you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well as > Customs offices ? > -"Yes, we did , we are stating (word to word) in all our documents, the > whole list of rare NWA > as well as people names have been transmitted." > > 4) did you declared in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON > came to Morocco > to fix the details of the meteorite business ? > -"Yes, we did , do you want to read it ?" > > 5) what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ? > -"Well, this you will ALL discover soon, as it's a surprise > we can't tell you now, surprises are always so sweet....." > > So this is what we can tell from their written declarations. All these > officials papers > will be at the Inn Suites in Tucson. Pass by, have a look, make your own > idea of the > danger. As some of you wrote us: we all have to wake up and see the > IMMENSITY > of the potential negative results of the actions of the Pellissons. This is > the first time in > meteorites history that a threat between two parts (and we didn't begin > anything as we > don't mind about other's stories as far as they don't attack us) will have > hard consequences > for everybody. > > Pelisons, we already ship our material, it's in storage in Tucson, don't > waste your time > to send pictures and lists to Ministers and Customs. We already have been > investigated in all > ways even by tax people.... we are 100% fed up by your madness. Go back to > Libya to > steel other's ellipses (as you did for the German's CO3 and AEUC-P....). > It's not the other's > fault if you never found something of interest and you have to understand > that the > scientists are fine with NWA specimens, it's the first time in history that > so much affordable > specimens are available for science, it will grow up Human Beeing's > knowledge. > > To establish the Truth, > > Bruno & Carine > www.meteorite.ch > > PS: we are leaving to Japan Tuesday so Mrss if you have anything to say do > it now > and not like you did three times in the past (cf last Tucson show), a knife > in the back is not fair. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:29 PM > Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson,the best of hypocrisy > > > > Mr Pellissons, > > > > we finally found the way of emailing directly to the list... we don't > > > > hide anywhere and don't have to answer that kind of small remarks... > > > > > > > > A lot of people would like YOU to answer these questions : > > > > -Didn't you use names and parts of private mails to try to convict the > Judge > > that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ? > > > > -The 9 march of this year (the day you have been sentenced guilty by > Lyon's > > Court) > > didn't you send to major medias > > a 64 pages document of lies involving half of the scientists and > collectors > > (you must have spend a whole month to invent that !) > > > > -Didn't you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well > as > > Customs offices ? > > > > -You're stating that nothing is illegally done front of the Court, but > your > > attorney > > > > present part of mails out of context where you are 100% lying. You even > > declared > > in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON came to Morocco > > to fix the details of the meteorite business ..... > > > > > > For all of this we have the papers in hands and Court statements ! > > > > > > > > You are involving just everybody and worst we know only the surface of the > > iceberg, what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ? > > > > > > Answer these questions front of the people you are using to build > > your lies ! > > > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, can you imagine the consequences of such declarations ? > > > > > > > > They said that no scientists are publishing on NWA, that all scientists > are > > calling > > > > NWA meteorite "bastard child". They are speaking in the name of the Nom > > Com.... > > > > > > > > They did present themselves as scientists witch they are not, > > they are speaking on the name of the entire community > > but nobody ever give them this right. > > > > > > > > We ask all of you to react NOW, because if you don't you will be stop at > > > > Customs with the possibility to lose everything, in some countries some > > could go > > > > in jail and have your names link with terrorism in major medias and > google, > > tax people will > > > > open files on ebay sales and money transfer... etc... > > > > > > > > What a great program, thank you to the pellissons your jealousy drive you > > to the worst acts. > > > > > > > > You can all do something, don't just wait and see: you can write a letter > > that will tell the Judge > > > > the truth on whom the pellison are. If you have in file mails or anything > > from them > > > > stating anything about Sahara meteorites, forward them to us as this > > > > could be very helpful for establishing the Truth. > > > > > > > > We all know that these are only lies but their false documents can convict > > > > some people whom don't know anything about meteoritic, we saw some > > > > journalists and Customs officers taking this very seriously. It's time > > > > to stop these mad guys now and the only way is to use Justice. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can write either publicly on this list or privately to this address: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Meteorite collecting is pointed out as the worst think but > > > > History will retain who was in witch part of the fight. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Bruno & Carine > > La Memoire de la Terre Sarl > > The Earth's Memory LLC > > France > > www.meteorite.fr > > www.fossile.fr > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:30 PM > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite > hobby? > > > > > > > Let us explain the French problem with B. Fectay/C. Bidaut > > > > > > Bruno Fectay and Carine Bidaut have sued us in March 2004 for libel. It > > is > > > "only" a civil action between B. Fectay/C. Bidaut and us to claim for > > > damages. > > > Now we are also claiming for damages against them. > > > > > > It will take several months to the justice before to return a verdict. > > > As you can imagine, nothing is illegally done in front of the court : > > > private emails are not admissible. > > > And "nobody" can be summoned to appear in a civil action. > > > > > > All the remarks and all the publicity which have been given to this > > affair > > > are the consequences of this civil action. > > > > > > Regarding our web page on NWA meteorites, the French court decided in > our > > > favor: > > > "Il ne peut être contesté que le débat sur les lieux de découvertes des > > > météorites est légitime et présente un intérêt scientifique. La même > > > légitimité doit être reconnue pour les discussions sur le transport et > > les > > > opérations commerciales relatives à ces météorites" > > > > > > We hope that everybody can return to his passion. And we wish that > those > > > interested by the subject will wait for the official decision. > > > And if Bruno Fectay has something to express why does he needs to write > > > through N. Classen and not with his own email ? > > > > > > > > > For those who want to know more about us and our work on Saharan > > > strewnfields, you can browse our web pages: > > > http://www.SaharaMet.com > > > > > > And our 2003 expedition on Mauritanian craters: > > > http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/craters.html > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Richard and Roland Pelisson > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Norbert Classen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cc: "La Memoire de la Terre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 6:38 AM > > > Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson, the end of a free meteorite hobby? > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I'm forwarding this message on behalf of Bruno & Carine. > > > > They are having problems to post to the list, and thus they > > > > asked me for assistance. Please read below. > > > > > > > > BTW, I believe their message to be of major importance to > > > > us all. We shouldn't allow a few rotten apples to spoil our > > > > hobby - so please read what Bruno & Carine have to say since > > > > it affects us all, and a few of us, more directly. > > > > > > > > If you want to take action, please contact Bruno & Carine in > > > > that matter. You may reach them via: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > Norbert > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > > > this subject is of high interest as it will affect all of us > > > > including the scientists. What the Pellissons are doing is just > > > > unbelievable, they already did contact the French interior > > > > Ministry as well as the Customs offices in different countries. > > > > They are linking the meteorite community to terrorism in different > > > > ways. > > > > > > > > They did send to major medias a 64 pages document full of crap > > > > with parts of YOUR private and public mails to try to establish > > > > that nobody but themselves have the right to sell meteorites!! > > > > > > > > Be aware than in a close future we will all have problems shipping > > > > or crossing borders with meteorites, thanks to them! > > > > Just try a Google search for "money for terrorism" and you will get > > > > straight to their page, listed in first place.... see it here: > > > > > > > > http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=%22money+for+terrorism%22&meta= > > > > > > > > They are using metanames and cross linking > > > > with pages about horrible things just to attract interest on them. > > > > > > > > You all know that we did bring them to court, they already have been > > > > sentenced in emergency during the last Tucson show. Now we are > driving > > > > them to serious things, we received their list of pseudo arguments > > > > from our attorneys. > > > > > > > > Here is the list of the people they are involving in front of the > Judge > > > > and the Lyon's Court (the second biggest in France), they are using > > > > parts of your public and private emails to try to explain why > > meteorites > > > > (except of their own) are funding terrorism. > > > > > > > > Warning: be aware that these documents are used to prove that either > > > > you 100% agree with them and support their ideas or that you are > > involved > > > > in funding islamist networks...... > > > > > > > > Privates: > > > > Mr Bernd Pauli > > > > Mr Eric Twelker > > > > Mr Art Jones > > > > Mr Alain Carion > > > > Mr Michael Farmer > > > > Mr Michel Franco > > > > Mr Aziz Habibi > > > > Mr Nelson Oakes > > > > Mr Bob Verish > > > > Mr Greg and Adam Hupe > > > > Mr Tracy Latimer > > > > Mr Luc Labenne > > > > Mr Dean Bessey > > > > Mr Matteo Chinellato > > > > > > > > Scientists: > > > > Dr Zenda > > > > Dr Grossman > > > > Dr Barrat > > > > Dr Treiman > > > > Dr Huss > > > > Dr Gillet > > > > Dr Jambon > > > > Dr Bunch > > > > the whole Meteoritical Society > > > > the AMNH of New York > > > > the MNHN of Paris > > > > > > > > And this is only a resume of the thing, it would take days to > translate > > > > the horrors they are building. As an example they are trying to > explain > > > > that the MNHN of Paris did send Michel Franco to build a new network > > > > for funding Al Queda and they sent that to the French medias... > > > > > > > > What will be the next step? Child abuse? Drug traffic? If we don't > stop > > > > them now be sure everybody will get in trouble because of the > wonderful > > > > hobby we share: meteorites. > > > > > > > > As your names and private emails have been used by them in a public > > > > court and have been transmitted to medias and Customs offices > > > > worldwide, you have the right to ask them a translated copy of the > way > > > > they are using it, you can urge them by law to stop using your names > > and > > > > mails too.... > > > > > > > > We stay available if you need further advices. > > > > > > > > Sorry to send such a terrible post, but the community should be aware > > of > > > > what is going on. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > Bruno & Carine > > > > La Memoire de la Terre Sarl > > > > The Earth's Memory LLC > > > > France > > > > www.meteorite.fr > > > > www.fossile.fr > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "dean bessey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 6:26 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] SaharaMet Expedition on meteorite > impact > > > > craters > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is from the pellison guys who says terrorists are > > > > > being supported by you meteorite buyers. > > > > > In court in France my own name was used in French > > > > > court along with my postings to this list as evidence > > > > > that I stated terrorists were being supported by our > > > > > meteorite buys. > > > > > Now I ask every member of this list? Where in the > > > > > archaives do I provide evidence that Al Quada is > > > > > supported by our buys? This is pure fabrication and > > > > > efforts to drive everybody else out of the desert. I > > > > > havent seen the court document but I suspect they have > > > > > taken some of the moronic fights about exporting > > > > > meteorites illegally from morocco that me, farmer, the > > > > > hupes and others have sadly gotten involved in in our > > > > > efforts to claim that "My meteorites are better than > > > > > your meteorites" (Yes, I am as guilty as anybody in > > > > > this "My meteorites are better than your meteorites" > > > > > crap even though it is not possible to illegally > > > > > export meteorites from morocco because there is no law > > > > > in morocco saying that you cant do it - go to your > > > > > local moroccan embassy if you want confirmation of > > > > > what I am saying here). > > > > > My suspicion is that they took things out of context > > > > > and misquoted what was said taking things out of > > > > > context. > > > > > So lets see, we have a dealer who is known to have > > > > > deliberately misquoted other people and lied about > > > > > what was said in postings. We know that the pelissons > > > > > are people with no scruples and have no hessitation > > > > > about lying. If they willingly lie in court imagine > > > > > what they would tell meteorite collectors. Tell me, is > > > > > this the type of person that you would buy a meteorite > > > > > from? They lied at least twice. How do you know that > > > > > they are not lying when they tell you that they never > > > > > bought a NWA in morocco from aid mohammad and instead > > > > > of selling it for 20 cents a gram like I would do if I > > > > > bought a NWA from aid mohammad, they offer it to you > > > > > at $2 a gram as their own find? They lied once in a > > > > > very orchastrated court fraud and made up a story that > > > > > meteorite funds are supporting terrorism. > > > > > Does known fakers really need three strikes to be out? > > > > > If you pay more than 15 cents a gram for a pellisson > > > > > meteorite you are buying something from people with no > > > > > more trustworthyness than dealing with a lot of the > > > > > moroccans. The pellisons meteorites have no more known > > > > > about them than if you buy my 20 cent NWAs. You dont > > > > > know where they are from. > > > > > And yes, I really am pissed off because my name was > > > > > used in french court in a fabricated court case. > > > > > Sincerely > > > > > DEAN > > > > > > > > > > --- SaharaMet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A new page on our desert trips: > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mauritanian Sahara expedition > > > > > > - Temimichat and Tenoumer impact craters > > > > > > - panoramic views of the craters > > > > > > (4000x650 pixels) > > > > > > - impactites and shocked granitic rocks > > > > > > - story of the journey > > > > > > > > > > > > Go to: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.saharamet.com/expedition/2003/crater.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard & Roland Pelisson > > > > > > SaharaMet > > > > > > Sahara expeditions and great meteorite discoveries > > > > > > http://www.saharamet.com > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > ______________________________________________ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > ______________________________________________ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list ______________________________________________ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
