Hi guys, This is just plain odd. I thought it was something I was doing wrong, but now several people I have shown also agree this is strange (you guys are all CC'd in).
$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig ral0 nwid b0rk $ sudo /sbin/ifconfig ral0 ral0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 lladdr 00:12:0e:61:5b:74 groups: wlan egress media: IEEE802.11 autoselect status: no network ieee80211: nwid b0rk 100dBm inet6 fe80::212:eff:fe61:5b74%ral0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 inet 192.168.84.91 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.84.255 Now we are in a state where the wireless network can't work, there is no such network as 'b0rk' Now xterms will not run. BUT... If I switch from xfce to cwm, I do not observe this behavior. Here is a ktrace: 19446 ktrace RET ktrace 0 19446 ktrace CALL execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620) 19446 ktrace NAMI "/bin/xterm" 19446 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 19446 ktrace CALL execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620) 19446 ktrace NAMI "/usr/bin/xterm" 19446 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 19446 ktrace CALL execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620) 19446 ktrace NAMI "/usr/local/bin/xterm" 19446 ktrace RET execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory 19446 ktrace CALL execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620) 19446 ktrace NAMI "/usr/X11R6/bin/xterm" What we see here is the shell (ksh) looking for the xterm binary, finding it, but never executing it. Oga@ suggested I build a debug libc and get a backtrace. Here this is: (gdb) bt #0 0x04a01f1d in read () from /usr/lib/libc.so.49.0 #1 0x083711b0 in _IceTransSocketRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1 #2 0x08371f85 in _IceTransRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1 #3 0x08373df6 in _IceRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1 #4 0x083743a8 in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1 #5 0x0afe5a23 in SmcOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.8.0 #6 0x0a29b7e0 in JoinSession () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #7 0x0a298617 in SessionInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #8 0x0a27cd01 in CallInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #9 0x0a27d218 in xtCreate () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #10 0x0a27db08 in _XtAppCreateShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #11 0x0a27dbcd in XtAppCreateShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #12 0x0a288027 in XtOpenApplication () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #13 0x1c01d397 in ?? () #14 0x3c0167a0 in environ () #15 0x3c007d24 in ?? () #16 0x3c00dfc0 in __progname () #17 0x0000008e in ?? () #18 0xcfbc4354 in ?? () #19 0x89d86020 in ?? () #20 0x3c00df80 in __progname () #21 0x2a271a20 in sessionResources () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0 #22 0x00000000 in ?? () If I then fix/take down the network interface, within 10 seconds the process will unblock and the xterms will appear. Further, if you start xfce in an inconsistent state, it wont start. As soon as you fix or take down the wifi, it starts. I used to think this only happened on ral, but come to think of it my wi did this too. My question is why is this happening? OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1113: Mon Oct 20 17:51:31 MDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz ("GenuineIntel" 686-class) 600 MHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2 real mem = 1072656384 (1022MB) avail mem = 1028677632 (981MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/22/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (57 entries) bios0: vendor IBM version "1QET97WW (3.02 )" date 09/22/2005 bios0: IBM 2673W7Z apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2 apm0: battery life expectancy 85% apm0: AC off, battery charge high, estimated 2:30 hours acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920 pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries) pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 ("Intel 82371FB ISA" rev 0x00) pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus bios0: ROM list: 0xc0000/0x10000 0xd0000/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe0000/0x10000 cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor) cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 600 MHz (956 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200, 1000, 800, 600 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 "Intel 82855PM Host" rev 0x03 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 "Intel 82855PM AGP" rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY" rev 0x00 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xd0000000, size 0x10000000 radeondrm0 at vga1: ATI Radeon LY RV100 Mobility M6(0), 1.29.0 20080613 uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 uhci2 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 ehci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 "Intel 82801DB USB" rev 0x01: irq 11 usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 "Intel EHCI root hub" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 "Intel 82801BAM Hub-to-PCI" rev 0x81 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 cbb0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev 0xaa: irq 11 cbb1 at pci2 dev 0 function 1 "Ricoh 5C476 CardBus" rev 0xaa: irq 11 "Ricoh 5C552 Firewire" rev 0x02 at pci2 dev 0 function 2 not configured em0 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 "Intel PRO/1000MT (82540EP)" rev 0x03: irq 11, address 00:11:25:b1:32:43 ral0 at pci2 dev 2 function 0 "Ralink RT2561S" rev 0x00: irq 11, address 00:12:0e:61:5b:74 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2561C, RF RT5225 cardslot0 at cbb0 slot 0 flags 0 cardbus0 at cardslot0: bus 3 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia0 at cardslot0 cardslot1 at cbb1 slot 1 flags 0 cardbus1 at cardslot1: bus 6 device 0 cacheline 0x0, lattimer 0xb0 pcmcia1 at cardslot1 ichpcib0 at pci0 dev 31 function 0 "Intel 82801DBM LPC" rev 0x01: 24-bit timer at 3579545Hz pciide0 at pci0 dev 31 function 1 "Intel 82801DBM IDE" rev 0x01: DMA, channel 0 configured to compatibility, channel 1 configured to compatibility wd0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0: <HTS726060M9AT00> wd0: 16-sector PIO, LBA, 57231MB, 117210240 sectors wd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, Ultra-DMA mode 5 pciide0: channel 1 disabled (no drives) ichiic0 at pci0 dev 31 function 3 "Intel 82801DB SMBus" rev 0x01: irq 11 iic0 at ichiic0 spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x51: 512MB DDR SDRAM non-parity PC2700CL2.5 auich0 at pci0 dev 31 function 5 "Intel 82801DB AC97" rev 0x01: irq 11, ICH4 AC97 ac97: codec id 0x41445374 (Analog Devices AD1981B) ac97: codec features headphone, 20 bit DAC, No 3D Stereo audio0 at auich0 "Intel 82801DB Modem" rev 0x01 at pci0 dev 31 function 6 not configured usb1 at uhci0: USB revision 1.0 uhub1 at usb1 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb2 at uhci1: USB revision 1.0 uhub2 at usb2 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 usb3 at uhci2: USB revision 1.0 uhub3 at usb3 "Intel UHCI root hub" rev 1.00/1.00 addr 1 isa0 at ichpcib0 isadma0 at isa0 pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5 pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot) pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0 pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot) pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0 pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: <PC speaker> spkr0 at pcppi0 lpt2 at isa0 port 0x3bc/4: polled npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16 fdc0 at isa0 port 0x3f0/6 irq 6 drq 2 biomask effd netmask effd ttymask ffff mtrr: Pentium Pro MTRR support softraid0 at root root on wd0a swap on wd0b dump on wd0b kqemu: kqemu version 0x00010300 loaded, max locked mem=523756kB DDB symbols added: 325104 bytes info: [drm] Setting GART location based on new memory map info: [drm] Loading R100 Microcode info: [drm] writeback test succeeded in 1 usecs auich0: measured ac97 link rate at 48001 Hz, will use 48000 Hz -- Best Regards Edd http://students.dec.bournemouth.ac.uk/ebarrett