The way we deal with main pages on mobile is a big mess in my opinion.
It also seems during Wikimania that various people share my view on
this. We should show the same content on mobile as on desktop and stop
special casing it (There's a bug about this -
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30405)

I think the problem here is we'd need to clean up every MediaWiki
homepage in existence so that they do not use inline styles and have
mobile specific styles as otherwise if we stop special casing the main
page these pages will appear broken.

I would suggest we
1) set a deadline for a switch over where we stop the special casing
on the main page - we can work together during that day to ensure
pages are mobile ready 2) we change the code so that a querystring
specialcase=no shows what the main page will look like after the
switchover
3) community works together to move inline styles into a stylesheet
e.g. MediaWiki:Common.css and alter homepages
4) we turn of the special casing on the deadline date
5) we deal with broken main pages on a case by case basis.

I've added a note saying the above here:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Deprecating_inline_styles#Deprecating_inline_styles_on_home_pages
If this seems like a good course of action I'm happy to coordinate.
Please reply suggesting how much of a timeframe for such a switchover
would be necessary and of course speak up if you object strongly.

Feel free to forward to other mailing lists that make sense.

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 7:09 PM, Philip Chang <pch...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> Ok, good feedback. To some degree this is determined by the admins of each
> language, though in English we exercised some discretion.
>
> Copying mobile-l to see if this generates more discussion.
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:51 PM, Imzadi1979 <imzadi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Jul 16, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Philip Chang wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback. It was a conscious choice to include only TFA
>> and ITN,  because of the restrictions of mobile screens.
>>
>> Do you feel strongly about any of the other content you mentioned?
>>
>> Phil
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 4:55 AM, Imzadi1979 <imzadi1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a quick comment, but the display of the Main Page only shows TFA and
>>> ITN. What about DYK, OTD, TFL and TFP?
>>>
>>> -Imzadi1979
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Phil Inje Chang
>> Product Manager, Mobile
>> Wikimedia Foundation
>> 415-812-0854 m
>> 415-882-7982 x 6810
>>
>>
>> Well, that's only 40% of the sections of the real Main Page (33% on
>> Mondays). I'm sure the people who work hard to get TFP and TFL would be
>> upset knowing that their hard work is only visible on computers and
>> third-pary apps, not the one app that carries the WMF "seal of approval".
>> Sorry, but I don't buy the "restrictions of mobile screens" argument when
>> Wikipanion or Wikiamo, two apps I downloaded before the "official" app was
>> available, show the whole Main Page. In short, the Main Page isn't the Main
>> Page without all of its sections. The other apps don't display it as
>> gracefully as possible, but they do show all of the sections.
>>
>>
>> Imzadi1979
>> imzadi1...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> Phil Inje Chang
> Product Manager, Mobile
> Wikimedia Foundation
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> 415-882-7982 x 6810
>
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