On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:49 PM, Enno Rey <e...@ernw.de> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> some approaches were discussed in 2010, by Graeme Neilson from NZ here:
> 
> https://www.troopers.de/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/TROOPERS10_Netscreen_of_the_Dead_Graeme_Neilson.pdf
> 
> a later year, at the same conference, he gave a private session demonstrating 
> basically the same stuff for JunOS, as ongoing (and, at the time, non-public) 
> research.
> 
> happy NYE to everybody

What I found mildly amusing this summer was most of the outlines of the summer 
"Snowden" stuff was covered in this book:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DNL1AXE/ref=nosim?tag=pucknethernet-20&linkCode=sb1&camp=212353&creative=380549

If you have no plans for tomorrow and like this type of stuff, go ahead and 
take a quick read :)

Much of this stuff isn't new.  There have been industry groups working on these 
supply chain assurance and risk models for years.  If you are truly paranoid 
you will be working with these groups already.  Pointers available in private 
if you want them.

- Jared

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