Same here.
I have 5x MOD_6 clocks (various versions).  2 with ‘antenna’ tubes. I notice no 
difference; however, I pride myself on having the antenna tubes.  Maybe it was 
just me, but having had hundreds (if not a thousand) of B7971 tubes, I have 
only run across the 13 antenna tubes  (yes, only 1 spare).

Michail

From: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com <neonixie-l@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Nicholas Stock
Sent: Thursday, July 6, 2023 11:14 AM
To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [neonixie-l] B7971 - better contrast

I have a MOD_6 with pin-top tubes in them. Absolutely no visual difference to 
the non-pin ones when compared side by side.

Jeff, you should have bought more when you could!!!! 😀

I still rue the day when I thought a box of 100 IN14's at $99 was expensive.....

Nick
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On Jul 6, 2023, at 07:34, Robert G. Schaffrath 
<robert.schaffr...@gmail.com<mailto:robert.schaffr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I have one of the pin top tubes 
(https://n2jtx.com/NixieClock/Used%20Burroughs%20B-7971.jpg). Unlike most of my 
other tubes, it is a Burroughs branded tube and not Ultronics. The only thing I 
ever noticed different about it was it seemed to have a deeper red glow than 
the Ultronics tubes which are more orange. Perhaps a different amount of 
mercury in it. Someday when I think about it I'll test it again.
On Wednesday, July 5, 2023 at 3:50:55 AM UTC-4 Jeff Walton wrote:
I have a number of these "rare pin-top" B-7971's and do not find any 
significant difference in contrast with the Ultronics versions of the 7971s .  
The pin-topped or "antenna top" construction is an early format that uses a 
wired backplane instead of the PCB style interconnect.  It's a nice tube that 
looks good as a group in any clock.  There is no practical difference in 
operation  or appearance and there are certainly some MOD-6 clock owners that 
have full sets of these tubes in operation will tell you that they are equally 
reliable.   They will have date codes in the mid-1960s.

It is uncommon to see a group like this available.   $250 to $275 each per tube 
seems to be the going price on ebay these days.  Overpriced but worth whatever 
someone is willing to pay.

My first tubes were $8/pair from Buckbee-Mears and Polypaks back in the early 
1970's and included the boards with each pair.

Jeff

-------- Original message --------
From: Robert <robnor...@gmail.com>
Date: 7/5/23 2:11 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: neoni...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [neonixie-l] B7971 - better contrast

Not my auction but I saw this 
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/266322565516?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=v3sg3SvYRJa&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=U1YeAcPgQ5y&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

In the description it says “This sale is for lots of "Pin-Top" version of the 
B-7971. The rare "Pin-Top" versions are made with a darker background on the 
segments that provide better contrast.”

I have some of these but have never noticed this

Rob
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