Please, drive new multi projects requirements thru use cases of Product WG.
Thanks,
Arkady

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From: joehuang [mailto:joehu...@huawei.com]
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture] 
Coordination between actions/WGs

Hello, Adrien,

How about different focus for different working gruop? For example, "massively 
distributed" working group can focus on identifying the use cases, challenges, 
issues in current openstack to support such fog/edge computing scenario, and 
even including the use cases/scenario from ETSI mobile edge computing 
(http://www.etsi.org/technologies-clusters/technologies/mobile-edge-computing, 
https://portal.etsi.org/portals/0/tbpages/mec/docs/mobile-edge_computing_-_introductory_technical_white_paper_v1%2018-09-14.pdf).
 For "architecture" working group, how about to focus on dicsussing technology 
solution/proposal to address these issues/challenges?

We have discussed/exchanged ideas a lot before/in/after Austin summit. As 
Tricircle has worked in the multisite area for several cycles, a lots of use 
cases/challengs/issues also have been identified, the proposal of Tricircle 
could be one basis to be discussed in "arhictecture" working group, other 
proposals are also welcome.

Best Regards
Chaoyi Huang (joehuang)

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From: lebre.adr...@free.fr [lebre.adr...@free.fr]
Sent: 23 August 2016 18:17
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Subject: [openstack-dev] [all][massively distributed][architecture] 
Coordination between actions/WGs

Hi Folks,

During the last summit, we suggested to create a new working group that deals 
with the massively distributed use case:
How can OpenStack be "slightly" revised to operate Fog/Edge Computing 
infrastructures, i.e. infrastructures composed of several sites.
The first meeting we did in Austin showed us that additional materials were 
mandatory to better understand the scope as well as the actions we can perform 
in this working group.

After exchanging with different persons and institutions, we have identified 
several actions that we would like to achieve and that make the creation of 
such a working group relevant from our point of view.

Among the list of possible actions, we would like to identify major scalability 
issues and clarify intra-site vs inter-site exchanges between the different 
services of OpenStack in a multi-site context (i.e. with the vanilla OpenStack 
code).
Such information will enable us to better understand how and where each service 
should be deployed and whether it should be revised.

We have started an action with the Performance WG with the ultimate goal to 
analyse how OpenStack behaves from the performance aspect as well as the 
interactions between the various services in such a context.

Meanwhile, we saw during this summer the Clynt's proposal about the 
Architecture WG.

Although we are very exciting about this WG (we are convinced it will be 
valuable for the whole community), we are wondering whether the actions we 
envision in the Massively distributed WG will not overlap the ones 
(scalability, multi-site operations ...) that could be performed in the 
Archictecture WG.

The goal of this email is to :

(i) understand whether the fog/edge computing use case is in the scope of the 
Architecture WG.

(ii) if not, whether it makes sense to create a working group that focus on 
scalability and multi-site challenges (Folks from Orange Labs and British 
Telecom for instance already told us that they are interesting by such a 
use-case).

(iii) what is the best way to coordinate our efforts with the actions performed 
in other WGs such as the Performance and Architecture ones (e.g., actions 
performed/decisions taken in the Architecture WG can have impacts on the 
massively distributed WG and thus drive the way we should perform actions to 
progress to the Fog/Edge Computing target)


According to the feedback, we will create dedicated wiki pages for the 
massively distributed WG.
Remarks/comments welcome.

Ad_rien_
Further information regarding the Fog/Edge Computing use-case we target is 
available at http://beyondtheclouds.github.io

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