All--

Technical reasons aside, my own simulation efforts (software that relies on ParaView for post-processing) span a great variety of solid and structural mechanics applications. The software is not a single-formulation, single-solution, one-off problem solver.

Put briefly, I find the "Apply" button exceptionally useful.

The EnSight-formatted results files produced contain a surfeit (excess) of simulation results for any one application. I use the "Apply" button on loading results files for several purposes:

1) Load only results that are most useful to the current problem or application.

2) Limit the results I examine to those relevant to the phase st hand:
i) Phase 1. Are the results OK (BC's OK? Energy Balance OK? Loading OK?)
    ii) Phase 2. Which result describes the response most effectively?
   iii) Phase 3. Presentation animations and figures for communicating.

3) Frequent tuning of various filters to refine the display of the results being studied.

4) Last but not least, limit the results being examined at any one session to avoid the MS O/S crashing PV because of the MS O/S limits on resources usable.

Thanks for the opportunity to express my support for ParaView and its exceptional versatility and effectiveness as a post-processing tool.

Sam Key

On 6/7/2011 8:56 AM, Moreland, Kenneth wrote:
One thing that strikes me about this proposal, is that it relies a lot on
VTK readers/filters providing the necessary meta data, particularly about
fields.  For example, the elevation filter would have to report in its
meta data that it will be adding a scalar field named Elevation.  That
sounds easy enough to implement, but would have to be independently added
for all readers/filters.  This would be especially problematic for
user-provided plugins.

Is there a way to mitigate the issues with the meta data mismatching what
is actually generated?  Perhaps there could be a check to make sure that
the data generated matches the meta data previously reported and issue a
warning if there are any mismatches.  This would not solve the problem per
se, but would quickly alert developers to problems and make it easier to
debug.

-Ken

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On 6/1/11 1:30 PM, "Utkarsh Ayachit"<utkarsh.ayac...@kitware.com>  wrote:

Folks,

I have been investigating the ability to create pipelines in ParaView
without having to hit Apply at every single stage in the pipeline.
This would make it much easier to deal with really large data in a
usage scenario where the scientist is fairly familiar with the
visualization pipeline he's interested in setting up.

Following the recent changes to the ParaView ServerManager, the
ServerManager level requirement that filters need to be updated before
connecting has disappeared. However, we still need to "Apply" to get
updated information about arrays etc.

After a couple on discussions with Berk and Dave, I've consolidated
the thoughts on a Wiki page. If any one has any thoughts to share, it
would be great.

http://www.paraview.org/ParaView3/index.php/No-Apply_Mechanism_for_Creatin
g_Pipelines

Note that this is merely a concept. We have no plans of implementing
it in near future (3.12/4.0).

Utkarsh
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