Rory Browne wrote:
How to use this list best:

Search the archives at lists.php.net for [NEWBIE GUIDE] It was written
by Jay Blanchard earlier this year I believe. Read it.

heh Rory, is this aimed at me or did you just reply to my mail for convienience? I happen to know the NEWBIE GUIDE quiet intimately (n'est pas Jay? :-)


Then read this: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

Then try learning PHP from the PHP manual. If you come across a
problem, then explain the problem, AND WHAT STEPS YOU HAVE TAKEN TO
SOLVE THE PROBLEM YOURSELF BEFORE POSTING TO THE LIST.

Give a little back. After you've learn't a little, and you see someone

me again. well i have mailed the list 235 times since 12-1-05 (as far as my local mail folders go atm) - granted not all are useful/valid answers, - compared to your 7 posts. I feel that I have satisfied the 'little' in 'give a little back' even if you don't :-).

anyway its not a pissing content, besides if it was I'd put my money on
Richard Lynch for all categories:

1. total number of posts
2. highest average no. of posts/week
3. longest post
4. total no. of words written
5. highest average no. of words/post

:-)

else posting a question that you know the answer to an feel you can
explain well, then hit your email clients reply button.

If you want to fit in, and you want to be taken seriously, and most
importantly if you want to learn, then consider the above points.

again is this aimed at me? no biggy but really I don't want to fit in all that bad....

<quote person="Groucho Marx">
I wouldn't join any club that would have me as a member ;-)
</quote>

...




On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 23:21:48 +0100, Jochem Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Bret Hughes wrote:

On Tue, 2005-02-22 at 05:27, Dhanasekar T wrote:


hi all,
i m new to this group ...now i want to learn php.

right now? not in five minutes.

I was kidding!



i want all u r guidence  to utilise this group...
thanks in advance
dhanas

Dhanas,

do you have php installed ?

Dhana is very welcome to answer this question, and maybe give some background as to his/her general skill level

**give us more input Dhana and maybe we can point you in the
right direction**

so come on Dhana - talk to us, tell us what your capable of
and what you would like to accomplish (be specific and start out
small if your a 'virgin programmer' ;-)

can you access http://php.net ? the best place to start
reading/learning....



I would start by looking at and dare I say reading the manual at php.net. Then surf around for a beginners tutorial, and start coding.

I suspect the learning curve shape depends on whether you have any
previous programming experience or not.

hey! I was looking forward to being utilized. ;-)

my hope is that Dhana is not so stupid that he assumes that my bit of humor was directly meant to make fun of his command of the english language.

I can find Dhanas use of words funny without requiring that I also
must mock him... besides the fact that I made the joke might be useful feedback
to Dhana with regard to bettering his English - Im sure he/she wishes to be 
able to
communicate as effectively as possible.

going back to your point about 'If you want to fit in': we are in the lower
echelons of hackerdom (for want of a better description). Fitting in entails
acting like a hacker.....which means be f****** resourceful, read, study, test,
experiment, don't _expect_ to be spoonfed knowledge/answers (heh you may get
lucky once in a while and get a visit from the BlueFairy but don't count on it).

we that was my daily dose of prescribed stress relief :-)



Bret


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