On 10/12/2007, Nathan Nobbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 10, 2007 5:29 PM, Robert Cummings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 14:22 -0600, Jay Blanchard wrote: > > > [snip] > > > Can you say for certain nature is truly random? Just because the seed > > > may have occurred 13.7 billion years ago and we don't know what that > > > initial state was and we couldn't possibly calculate all the > > > interactions since, doesn't mean that everything since hasn't been > > > happening in accordance with some universal formula and in absence of > > > randomness. We know that there appear to be certain laws in physics, > > > would they not have applied to that initial state in a non random > > > manner? It may just be that due to the hugantic sample space from which > > > to draw arbitrary values that we think things are random. > > > > > > Food for thought :) > > > [/snip] > > > > > > Without order there cannot be randomness. > > > > But is the reverse true? > > > i would have to say randomness came before order. but i suppose thats a > chicken > and egg problem..
In the worlds before Monkey, primal chaos reigned. Heavens sought order. But the phoenix can fly only when its feathers are grown. The four worlds formed again and yet again, as endless aeons wheeled and passed. Time and the pure essence of Heaven, the moisture of the Earth, the powers of the Sun and the Moon all worked upon a certain rock, old as creation. And it became magically fertile. That first egg was named "Thought". Tathagata Buddha, the Father Buddha, said, "With our thoughts, we make the World". Elemental forces caused the egg to hatch. From it came a stone monkey. The nature of Monkey was irrepressible! Monkeeeeeeeeeey.... -robin [I'll get my coat...] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
