Hello, On 08/03/2002 01:58 PM, Acer wrote: > There is a free php accelerator so I don't know why you would pay for one. > www.php-accelerator.co.uk > > The same guy (Nick) has also just made an encoder. It is in beta testing > right now and there's no windows version yet but that should be coming soon. > I think it's like $0.50 to encode your program which is much more > affordable. > http://www.php-encoder.com
You can also use APC cache extension in MMAP mode and when you run each script for the first time it stores the compiled files on disk. From then on you can delete the original sources as they are no longer needed. There is no need to pay for that. I alaways recommend APC to protect the source code to anybody because you do not even have to change any part of source code to use it. APC is available here: http://apc.communityconnect.com/ BCompiler is a new PECL extension that is based on APC and you can download it for free here: http://pear.php.net/package-info.php?pacid=95 So, there is really no need to pay at all. > I think the problem with zend is that they have put up the guise that php is > an opensource project but to actually use it in production you had to pay > several thousands every year for the accelerator and the encoder. It kinda You probably have no idea how right you are! :) Did you know that APC cache extension was developed because Zend wanted to charge a fortune to license Zend Cache to be used in a large cluster, but the company that has the cluster was not willing to pay that much? The funny part is that Zend CEO was so greedy that he refused to make a significant discount. Of course the company with the cluster refused to pay the absurd ammount of money that Zend charged. So, it seems that Zend CEO was so brilliant that challenged them to develop a Cache extension for free, and guess what, they did? hehehehehehehheheh Not only Zend people is greed as they seem so arrogant that they really think nobody can have developed the things they did. They probably think they are gods! Some customers probably believe that so they pay the fabulous fortunes that they charge! Anyway, if it was my company, I would have certainly fired that CEO for challenging somebody to develop a competing product, even more for free. > feels like a bait and switch to me which is why I personally think zend is > bad for php. Just do a search for jobs for asp, cf or jsp. There are a ton > of jobs for these languages and you would be lucky to find one for a php > developer. So zend rakes in the money and does no real marketing with that > money for php is the way I see it. Yes, I completely agree with you. Zend was good for having developed Zend engine but at the same time they cripple further development by not allowing Open Source cache/encoding extensions to be included in PHP. Once APC author publicly offered to integrate APC extension in PHP and the only response that he got was a stupid excuse from Zeev to not do it. > You'll never hear anything from the core php group since they are a tight > click so it's business as usual. Now that Nick has released the free > accelerator and an inexpensive ($0.50 per shot) encoder it might change but > I don't know if it's too late. You are also very right when you claim that other core developers have admited that by passively allowing Zend people to boycott the addition of an Open Source cache extension that can also be used for encoding scripts. Only them can explain the real reasons, but active or passively they are favouring Zend business, thus crippling further PHP development. As for Nick encoder I also agree that is probably too late for him to make money because there are free encoding extensions and like his they are not built-in PHP. Anyway, once Nick told me that he would not mind integrating his cache/encoding extension into PHP if the PHP developers (read Zend people) were not blocking it. He also told me about the interest to develop a PHP to C compiler which is way better than Zend Encoder because that would be really hard, if viable at all to reverse engineer. That would make PHP match other languages offer of real compilers either in protection terms and speed. -- Regards, Manuel Lemos -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
