Thanks for your input, Dimitris.
I've amended section 4.d. as proposed -
https://github.com/cabforum/forum/commit/c6850e24eb49d5cfcb00eae4d11e82544504bffb
Thanks again,
Ben

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 3:03 AM Dimitris Zacharopoulos (HARICA) <
dzach...@harica.gr> wrote:

>
> Hello Ben,
>
> At F2F58
> <https://cabforum.org/2023/03/02/minutes-of-the-f2f-58-meeting-in-ottawa-canada-28-february-1-march-2023/>we
> had a discussion about the lessons learned from ballot SC60
> <https://cabforum.org/wp-content/uploads/11-CABF_Lessons-learned-from-SC60.pdf>.
> During that meeting, a proposal was made that seems to fix the ambiguity of
> the current Bylaws.
>
> In line 93 of the proposed ballot, it says:
>
> ***(d)** There is a mandatory six-month probationary period during which
> any representative of an Applicant must attend at least 30% of all SCWG
> teleconferences (not counting subcommittee meetings) and at least one SCWG
> face-to-face meeting (either physically or virtually). After successful
> completion of the mandatory probationary period and meeting all
> requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b), an Applicant may become a Voting
> Member, if the SCWG determines by consensus among the Members during a
> Meeting or Teleconference, or upon the request of any Member, by a Ballot
> among the Members, that the Applicant meets the requirements of section
> 3(a) or 3(b). Acceptance by consensus shall be determined, or a Ballot of
> the Members shall be held, as soon as the Applicant indicates that it has
> presented all information required and has responded to all follow-up
> questions from the SCWG and the Applicant has complied with the
> requirements of Section 5.5 of the CA/Browser Forum Bylaws.*
>
>
> Instead of:
>
> *"or upon the request of any Member, by a Ballot among the Members, by a
> Ballot among the Members, that the Applicant meets the requirements of
> section 3(a) or 3(b)" *
>
> please update to:
>
> *"or upon the request of any Member that challenges the Applicant's
> adherence to all of the requirements of section 3(a) or 3(b), by a Ballot
> among the Members."*
>
> I read the rest of the proposed changes and they look good. If you are ok
> with the change above, HARICA would be happy to endorse the ballot.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Dimitris.
>
> On 13/10/2023 1:23 π.μ., Ben Wilson via Public wrote:
>
> All,
>
> I am planning to introduce a Forum ballot to amend the Server Certificate
> Working Group Charter.
>
> At a high level, here are some of the proposed changes:
>
>    - Section numbering added
>    - "Root Certificate Issuer" voting category removed
>    - Membership requirements for Certificate Consumers added
>    - 6-month probationary period prior to voting membership added
>    - Voting percentages and quorum clarified
>
> Because there are numerous proposed changes, here are a diff and a blob
> for your review.
>
> <http://goog_919727606>
>
> https://github.com/cabforum/forum/compare/59185f16917cc7f5b83564fe5fddff32cf84c8ce...85e569a43a5a2c9e5e16ce8bf1e569a98cfbd720
>
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/goog_919727603>
>
> https://github.com/cabforum/forum/blob/BenWilson-SCWG-charter-1.3/SCWG-charter.md
>
> I look forward to your comments and suggestions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ben
>
>
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