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re all, On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 02:26:30PM -0600, Josh Lawrence wrote: > Just curious about this... > > It seems that the dynebolic mailing lists have died. nope. the mailinglists are alive, just the web archive has died. it is difficult to repair it and we are still running in a P3 466Mhz server, the last time i tried to re-cache the web archive the machine filled up all its 1GB and decided to sit down in strike. we hope to solve this soon, meanwhile the mailman still does its job, but things aren't shiny as we'd like (yet) > Jaromil has been out of contact for some time what do you mean out of contact? did i missed to interact on something i was supposed to? i've not been included in the pure:dyne development team, even if i requested. now i hope you won't mix things up :) i'm still here (too) > and the most popular off-shoot of db (being puredyne) has moved on > to Ubuntu. Can it be assumed that db is dead? no! the dyne:bolic GNU/Linux project is not abandoned, as you can see also in its mailinglist there are discussions and contributions of .dyne modules, as well the manual has been recently translated to spanish. what is sure is that you won't find such a massive rethoric about "upgrading" and new versions: in general we are not into marketing and we don't aim at supporting newer hardware, rathern than old computers, which have been always supported, so in most cases not having an update means that all works fine :) i can understand this is not really the way software development is perceived today, nevertheless we could argue that an upgrade-avid attitude in development and marketing makes it much harder for users to distinguish what is really solid and what is not. our current development is focusing on the dyne:bolic 3.0 architecture (which will be based on gnewsense and pure:dyne packaging) while mantaining the 2.x series mostly means cleanup of non-free parts - we released a 2.6a some months ago which runs on a Linux-libre kernel (released by FSFLA) version 2.6.28 - but that didn't made it to stable because of squashFS 3.0 dropping backward compatibility with 2.0. meanwhile i'm personally recommending pure:dyne for people that have new hardware. i just hope you removed UbuntuOne and other non-free parts from it? sorry but i still didn't tested the latest version myself. at last, consider we are very busy developing software (so called "upstream") which is a much more engaging task than packaging a distribution: FreeJ our video mixer and streaming software is soon reaching version 1.0 providing important functionalities to all our distributions, among them we are now experimenting with running of Processing scripts on our C++ engine - some amazing language magics :) many greetings and thanks for your interest and effort, pure:dyne rox ciao - -- jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org GPG: B2D9 9376 BFB2 60B7 601F 5B62 F6D3 FBD9 C2B6 8E39 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iQQcBAEBCAAGBQJLfRLvAAoJEAslGzkIl3JRkIYgAJ3eYdYDcLoGr2aNWKbXBccl 6Jrxo7sy1wAi2CwT388YaYw4N5PAwUt0M8eijrS7qBJ9Vuvboq79P0wsXo0lMSRt N+lW0rPsQV+bMOC28DX3IJ9s/KC7FMBOEEWBPQYxaEHk9CV4+pTpwrNz9EMeXDnk pJaRQ8Qsul3UDey0I+n2g6ESzrh/V32u0Oe/xXZ9vCv15Isef+hXeFZvMDLkZE9R MvS7Dt83oj1oGwxlksgfKybCj5rcv0pkipI1zOEY9g9TDGBY49BRG2mYz/SZdjwz CJ2gHeIVvrvAM7WEs+eZ6bs/FVN5hszkJL4yd5G5F9O5wor/bKVQRuAfbl1oBR1K XNm3x0UYY/PQvh0giR8OZ62y/qWNLA4PY8aZ0K3mCXeQcBeSISO2feLx/iRPmfwo 1cGvmyQPyB6HUK8H0HKQH/1tH8nccvAP7sLtgw7IkPVYn23vZ40vjhJGSuG8FEcY YtvcNMt/DEG/TRVzkoIQDJf2ArBEanvkPxLpzh35q9jai9PI+ZyW9DRq0D9LHVqy I7XcbIhnkPhrT2DL8+u6noAwVxGJyPTkXDR9C3eRxapoomTpCrKiRKBTGl3K90KB BctR+O+cTnm5mfBVQmKkSsD0jHD27HuuSQJLpyRUrgSKGeBXR0mg4hVGrYxPuSLn JYdmYphK5lYi0gDkVrWALsHvIlDu/hXfOmPvYw43ieOkcODyk6hrjDXv+tkIFpiZ 4/hwLv6mfnV7mfBB/8KJXpKQT2DIQXT1Eag6skF5QJse3ijoVW7HEllThDkZjOTf ERc7Khcau+duoD5lomkq3XBJbHjGToVT8+toJ4c2/HpsUx5RV8Ip1VTbP46XwHt4 lPMRkfRkErTT+00IW237D3c2xxBaFQZ8CKI8w87W3s8Fsxa4U1Y6mss/vnRjwVjW knhVjU14vX27Bre3E94ZyknhzQLwdu0mUCcD9pk/whtDAh/b4/JkJGTtWK8PKYp0 v+QrZ2LqahF557Mddi8g2qDhqbktWik82tpBuo028YGjlYdlXyn/uDpLEoQ3ksr5 Dmx14yXb0l6RqWQFEQ4BIEkqskpS5iuwB7vpnHyLJwZW1EoTgRVRKa4XXhNJ+3Wh m77a/dea7YjnoqpED2xw+a873qUwVcs32Vij9lWk/iWDu9eYyAbLPy6plA5UlCFy 22eoGTj3Eaf1EDxB9/PzftbRVGBzjJd/ZdCKQxdeJTOFObaf/IpqqQzh8mdVf9RX yojfH0szy2g0zLzzilJ8ZcfvW+GZ8EovUwX+ogaGyVTg9soYJrKc5+pom//w0p+C zEboxkOeNhwBnOkxfX8Ct8qXYbrAG0GevL35S1yvkvAb4pM7GbJXIcBIPMAmwoE= =E4TC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- Puredyne@goto10.org http://identi.ca/group/puredyne irc://irc.goto10.org/puredyne