On 25/03/2021 9:18 a.m., Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:

On 24 March 2021 at 10:30, Martin Maechler wrote:
| For this reason I've committed to R (the trunk, i.e., R-devel,
| for R 4.1.0 in a month or so)  in svn rev 80110.

I just saw that via the (still extremely helpful) RSS feed of SVN changes and
then pulled.

You may have missed that Ivan concluded, and I followed, that the _patch is
not needed_.  All one needs is to adjust the .desktop file. I posted my full
changelog from the Debian package (of which I currently run a test build on
two Ubuntu machines using the binaries from Launchpad I pointed to).

So in that sense I think r80110 may wants to be reverted.


I'm not sure either if Martin saw your conclusion.

I haven't tested R-devel with r80110 yet, but I did make the equivalent change in rgl, and have been working with that.

In Ubuntu, it makes no difference if the .desktop file is changed as you describe, but I think it's an improvement if you don't make that change for the usual case. You don't get a ton of icons, you get one rgl icon per process.

In macOS, it does affect the behaviour of windows. During rgl testing, I sometimes create 100+ windows. Before the change, the window manager put them all over the screen, trying to make the newest one visible. After the change (now it knows they're all in the same group), it just cascades them down the screen until it hits the bottom, then keeps creating tiny windows crammed against the bottom of the screen. I think this is negative (the usual reason I create them all is to hope to spot bad changes).

So for a reasonable number of windows the change is an improvement: the windows appear grouped. For a very large number of windows it's a negative.

Duncan Murdoch

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